No Action Over Celtic Fans Chants

I'm sorry Ross but from what I can see Flower of Scotland is a song about sending home England's army through force and likewise the IRA songs are about a rebellious organisation defending their nation (like Scotland) against the English army.

How can one song that talks of rebelling or defending it's nation be sectarian whereas the other is not? Surely this is hypocritcal.

That said, I would never boo The Flower of Scotland. I think it is a great NA just like A Soldier's Song.

You know fair well that Celtic have a steep Irish history which is why A Soldiers Song is sung. The lyrics depict people DEFENDING their freedom, homes and land much very like A Flower of Scotland. So grow up, stop being bigoted.

The English National Anthem '* Save the Queen' speaks of scattering her enemies, making the whole world brothers (if not there'll be a war!), rebellious Scots to crush, etc etc. There is actually a peace version, which says it all really about their song!!!

Can't you see that people choose what to call bigoted and what not to call bigoted? Surely the Scottish and English NA's cause some offence to some people on both sides. So will you and your PC brigade be happy when these songs are banned in the future? Or will you sing it loud and proud?

 

100% spot on. A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own. In this situation Ross, you are well and truely a BIGOT. What makes you prejudiced is the the media , the people who decide whats bigotted and whats not so it suits their agenda's, and others who are intolerant of others.

 

what the * is wrong with ireland? what is the problem of most scots towards ireland?

 

Most Scots? A bit of a generalisation that one Most Scots have Irish in their family tree ...... me included from my grandparents and my hubby is half Irish

 

ross 1877 is a pain in the shuck

 

I should have said scottish non-celtic fans. Unfortunately from what I have experienced it was the majority of the peeps I was dealing with. Hopefully they were/are exceptions

 

Show me any line in the Boys of the Old Brigade and The Soldiers Song that are to do with religion

 

What about the line in the song you sang on sunday..

WE LOVE THE POPE!.......

 

You know for someone who didn't want to get into an argument you are doing well

 

Listen will ye just do one,don't try and justify the bigotted * ye have come out with here.Imagine if i had said Scottish *,or Muslim * i would have been told i was a bigot and i would have deserved it.so saying "Irish *" is exactly the same.You have proven yourself to be an ignorant racist and ill-informed and you are just digging yourself deeper in the hole ye are in.

 

Now tell me what makes a club?

Jock Stien said:"football is nothing without th fans"

A rather obvious statement in my opinion,but if this is true then you would have to say a football club is nothing without the fans?and that the fans are the football club,right?

So tell me why when i went to Lisbon every second person i talked too in a Celtic shirt was Irish.Its really only the staunch real supporters that will travel such distances for there club.

So the fact that you say your a fvckin scottish club isn't true because a large percentage of the support is Irish or of Irish decent which would make Celtic an Irish club to a certain extent.

Just because the stadium is in Scotland doesn't mean to say that we are a 100% Scottish club because we are not,it's the people who support the club that make the club what we are.

 

Thats not sectarian, now if it was hating the pope that would be unless you hated him purely for his personality and not because of his religion!!!!


Anyway Im bored with you now hun!!!!

 

oh yes jeannie, she is real, and at 9.00am on the 12.th of july, you'll find her with 12 cans of supers and a bottle of tonic and comfy slippers on,with wee willie mason dancing to the ugly gits on the road. hail hail

 

better than the......WE LOVE MICHEAL BARRYMORE...chants coming from your end ross, showing yourself , up are you sure that number in your name is'nt 1873 ya wee hun

 

Ross that really is a shame that you have to resort to such a racist comment with such racist sentiment. Very strong anti Irish feeling there.

 

Very well put and absolutely spot on.

 

I think as Scotland gets closer to full independence the ethnic and cultral links Ireland and Scotland have will lead to close links between the 2 countries again in time. I think today though you still have a lot of anti Irish sentiment and prejudice which is very commonplace in segments of Scottish society. You have on the one hand the hun types who claim to be Scottish but act more like servile english lapdogs and then you have the religious bigots. I think in time the relgious barriers which got built up between both countries will continue to break down and ultimately the common Celtic heritage which we both share will see our countries grow closer together. Plus lets face it money talks and Ireland has been very successful in a short time span economically since independance when you consider the centuries and level of evil inflicted by england and clearly some Scottish politicians see that and would like to emulate Ireland's economic success and thus are already fostering closer ties.

 

Agreed Eire,

The word Scot means people from Ireland.

Have these people never wondered at the similarity of our two cultures, the language, the music, the dancing and of course the whiskey/whisky.

What could be more patriotically Scottish than Celtic supporters celebrating this common link? Rather than the culture imposed on them by a foreign power, the English language, loyality to an English queen (when Scotland used to have their own royalty, as did we), waving the union flag or even the English one often ahead of their own Saltire.

If Ireland is such a foreign country how come I can translate the names of Scottish places like Eilean nan Ron (Seal Island) without even trying. Could an English person?

Rejecting everything Irish as */tosh is rejecting Scotland's culture and heritage.

To me this makes Celtic fans more Scottish than gers or many others.

 

Scot
Pronunciation: 'skätFunction:
nounEtymology: Middle English Scottes Scots, from Old English Scottas from Late Latin ScotusDate: before 12th century
1 : a member of a Celtic people of northern Ireland settling in Scotland about A.D. 500
2 a : a native or inhabitant of Scotland b : a person of Scottish descent

just thought i would post this for all the uninformed who come on here attempting to decry or villify us for not being patriotic (1877buddiehun) just to let he and his cohorts scottishness exactly what and who they are as the majority of scots are criminally ignorant or in total denial this must be a horrofiying read.
sectarian
adj. narrow-minded, having a limited perspective; belonging to a particular sect or faction
member of a sect or faction; narrow-minded person, person with a limited perspective

Sectarianism
Sectarianism refers (usually pejoratively) to a rigid adherence to a particular sect or party or denomination. It often implies discrimination, denunciation, or violence against those outside the sect. The term is most often used to refer to religious sectarianism, involving conflict between members of different religions or denominations of the same religion. It is also frequently used to refer to political sectarianism, generally on the part of a tight-knit political faction or party.

sectarian
■ adjective denoting, concerning, or deriving from a sect or sects. ▶carried out on the grounds of membership of a sect, denomination, or other group: sectarian killings.
■ noun a member or follower of a sect.

sectarianism noun
sectarianize or sectarianise verb

© Oxford University Press, 2004

sectarian
▶ adjective FACTIONAL, separatist, partisan, parti pris; doctrinaire, dogmatic, extreme, fanatical, rigid, inflexible, bigoted, hidebound, narrow-minded.

big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-gətFunction: nounEtymology: French, hypocrite, bigotDate: 1660
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
–big·ot·ed \-gə-təd\ adjective
–big·ot·ed·ly adverb

bigot
Function: noun

Synonyms: ENTHUSIAST, bug, fanatic, fiend, freak, maniac, nut, zealot
Related Words: approver, liker, relisher; mumpsimus, racist, segregationist
Contrasted Words: depreciator, disparager, knocker; disliker, disrelisher, hater, loather, misliker


you see 1877buddiehun
just what and who the * do you think you are, yourself and likeminded huns are celts descended from n.i,
in fact even the english it has been discovered are of the celtic gene-pool and not anglo saxxon, and when you do your sums we are all sons 'o' dan

and to simply catogarise as religious or bigoted or insular or racist, would be narrow-minded which is explained in big unjoined words for you above,

.........ma man, hail hail
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