Nick Griffin forced to abandon BNP press conference under hail of eggs

If todays anything to go by, then they obviously wont be allowed to do much of the * talk they usually do, as they will be forced off streets by protests e.t.c....

 

i read somewhere that they go to ipox and spurt their pish there to do more recruiting? dont quote me on that im not 100% sure tho!

 

I had a swatch on the BNP website for a gander at their policies. To be honest, soemwhat worryingly much of what they promote (with the exception of the immigration issue, although many are against the current system) is along the lines of a lot of the opinions I hear regularly from various *.
Given a change in the electoral system to proportional representation for General Elections that many are campaigning for (and rightly so as it is far more democratic) - it would unfortunately provide these BNP * with the ideal platform to capitalise on the undoubted underlying negative feelings that run throughout the country especially at this dire economic period.

 

Brilliant, No to fascists!

 

Good on them, hope they succeed. :icon_mrgreen:

 

I can't stand the BNP and Nick griffin. * them.

 

Just watched this on the news. Fantastic

* Scum The Lot Of Them. ANTIFA.

 

Ive never voted either and didnt even know there was a vote on apart from hearing about it on here. I agree with Conlon they are all *.

 

Democracy fails all the time, you have to take notice of historical precedents, the Nazis in Germany in '33 were voted in via democracy, if we had done more at the time to run them off the streets and out of power then we maybe wouldn't have 12million murdered in concentration camps. The fascists are a blight, they deserve no respect, they're outside politics because all their views are about hatred and violence and, as I said, we have examples of what happens when they get into power, of the grotesque atrocities they commit against millions of people. To ignore that and say we should treat them like any other party is criminally naive, cowardly and, I think, shows that more people have sympathy for their inadequate, racist views than are prepared to admit.

 

A lot of good points Kev, and a well-constructed post, but if Griffin and his conglomerate of * stains WERE "outside politics" then it would be impossible to vote for them, as they would not appear on a ballot. They did, and as such (sadly) the European Parliament official who stated: "Whatever we may think of their views, members will be accorded the same facilities and respect as any other democratically elected MEP's" is absolutely correct.

Sad, but true, and the price we pay for democracy.

 

It is shameful that the attack was allowed to happen. What we have is a group of people being hounded and physically abused for their intolerance and single mindedness, by a group of people who are doing the exact same! Weird eh??

Like it or lump it, but the BNP have gained support because of their views on immigration and the fact that thye have toned down and changed their policies. Granted they were classed as racist, but Labour were Socialists and they changed!!

I like some of their policies. But if you dont then you should be having the debate that they are looking for. Only then can people shoot them down. If they are never engaged in public debate on their policies then they will gain more support. If folk feel they are racists then they would be able to show that using reasoned debate.

 

That's maybe the most naive post I've ever read.'Toned down and changed their policies' You have got to be kidding right? The nazis didn't campaign on a manifesto of genocide and world war but we can infer it from their demand for lebensraum (living space) and their rancid views on european jews, the bnp's bile about immigration control and repatriation is the exact same tip of an iceberg that, if they gain significant power, will lead to death camps again. It's the inevitable end of their racist policies, no matter how they dress it up in their pamphlets. They are using the exact same policies as the KKK are using in the United States just now, 'we're not racist.. we're nationalist' and 'we just want to control immigration, they're taking the white man's jobs', it's worked their for them and unforunately it's worked now for the BNP. For any celtic fan to support them, with their insistence on keeping the North of Ireland British and fluttering their rank butcher's apron everywhere is just beyond me man.

 

Well put Kevbev.
And you know what. When most of our ancesters first came to Scotland from Ireland. they took the jobs away from the local natives by working for a penny less.

 

It is absolutley shocking that to justify your points of view (not only you ofcourse, most people do) you have to bring up the German * party. So you actually believe that Nick Griffin is secretly plotting with his Fascist counterparts they will execute all non British Nationals? If you do then it is you who is naive.

There are different reports that claim that within 60 years Britain will be a mainly Mulim Country. I think it was Gadaffi that said Muslims had tried to take over Europe by force, but now we may do so by breeding. The BNP are taking a stand against all that. Look at their policies and tell me one that you dont think is right or is forcing a racist view on people! For instance, the asylum seeker policy is what I have thought for years. Asylum seekers must go to the next avaliable country to claim asylum. We should therefore be the last country that is tried, not the first. Being more ruthless at the borders is what is needed. Doesnt Australia do this very successfully at the moment?

Just to let you know I am not a BNP supporter or activist. I just think that some of their policies are definetley worth looking at. As I said earlier, the only way that you can show they are racist is by engaging them in debate. Allowing, and supporting, them to be attacked is a disgrace. It makes all those who call the BNP all the bad things just as bad if not worse.

 

If more people actually voted, BNP wouldnt be getting elected, get off you're arses and vote!

 

Your inability to see the parallels between the German Nazis and the present neo-fascists betrays both a criminally dense understanding of history and also shows that you wish to support the BNP (despite your protestations) despite the obvious connections with the most evil perpetrators of the 20th century. Your use of the oxymoronic term 'non British National' also shows your obvious discomfort with non white Brits.
It's a common factor of fascist supporters that they are ignorant of true facts and instead believe the tabloid press and whatever nonsese the right wing spout. The UK is far down the list of counries who take asylum seekers and refugees, the vast majority of refugees/asylum seekers go to neighbouring countries which is why Iran took a million refugees from Iraq over the past ten years whilst Britian has only taken a handful.
When the Irish were migrating to the UK they were treated as second class citizens, accused of stealing jobs and houses and of forcing their religion upon the indigenous population. Many of the folk who use this board would be of Irish ancestry and yet you think it acceptable to come on spouting your ill informed, petty minded, inadequate nonsense when the vast majority of us (including maybe yourself) are 2nd, 3rd generation immigrants. I really think racist supporters like you are labouring under a massive inferiority complex, you feel inadequate in society and instead of blaming the large powerful institutions that may actually have an effect on your life you target the already vulnerable because you're too weak to recognise and attack any real targets. Your assertion that in 60 years this nation shall be predominately Muslim is....just beyond stupid, how can you possibly say that the majority of people in Britian will be Muslim? There is no logic, rationality or even arithmatic in work in that statement, they're humans, not rabbits. It seems that you are overly eager to believe racist lies.
There is no debating with racists/fascists, throughout history this has been shown from black civil right workers in the U.S so on and so forth, one last thing if you think that the BNP will stop at closing the borders then I'm kinda speechless to be honest.

 

I do not in any way want to see this thread descending towards a "you are racist" type tittle-tattle. Especially when the poster himself has stipulated:

"Just to let you know I am not a BNP supporter or activist. I just think that some of their policies are definetley worth looking at. As I said earlier, the only way that you can show they are racist is by engaging them in debate."

There are lots of good points being raised here, but any more accusations of racism will see this thread shut down, which would ruin an excellent debate thus far.

Thanks in advance for your (potential) co-operation.

 

I actually think you are funny! Do you honestly believe the crap that you spout? There are claims that in the coming generations the white christian population will be a minority. I did not say that I believe this. I was putting it out there that that is a reason that people have some of the views that they do.

Think how many children are in the average Asian Family. There is roughly 4 in each family. Now in white families it is 2 at most usually. In 2007 the birth rate was 1.6 children per family for Britain. Now if white families are producing 1-2 children and Asians are producing 4-5 then you can see how they come to their conclusions.

If the only link that you can between the BNP and the * party is their wish to keep their country as their own then you are clutching mate. So because Gordon Brown has tightened up the borders and made immigration harder is the Labour Party suddenly in the process of becoming like the * Party??

I have no 'discomfort' with non white brits. I believe that everyone here should be treated equally. I am afraid it is your 'discomfrot' with people with a slightly differing opinion to yourself that comes shining through. People like yourself (those that abhore the BNP and their likes) cant have a reasonable debate about certain issues with liking back to *'s and racism.

What have I said so far that is racist? I am not racist, so totally disagree with your claim.

I also think your claim that Britain is way down the list of Asylum seekers is way off the mark. In 2007 we received the highest number in the EU. Also the same in 2001. These are just two stats that I looked at after doing a basic search on google. Britain is smaller than Germany, France etc and took more than these bigger countries.

Unfortunatley you seem to be another member of the lets just call the BNP racists. If you dont like their policies, argue them down. Dont just liken them to *'s.

 

Cheers Daver. I also think this is a good debating point

 

It's scary the amount of people who voted for them.. legalised racists... joke.