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It’s not damaging in the slightest. I agree it was a bit *, even if he joined the team I support. But not damaging. The fact he returned to Cleveland and carried them to a Championship proves that.

Plus it means nothing about his ability on the court.

If the platform and star power was there to do it before that, it would of been done.

 

It was Damaging, he lost a ton of respect and even when he returned to Cleveland they didn't fully forgive him for that

 

Literally nobody talks about it anymore. They did forgive him, the vast majority anyway.

It’s only being brought up by you as a tactic to play down how good he is.

 

lol no it wasn't I brought it up as an example of how he harmed his own standing in the greatest ever conversation, I have seen him play at MSG he is amazing, my original point however stands that he is not better than MJ

 

My point stands that there’s a debate to be had. Joining Miami and making it a big deal doesn’t change that.

The one and only thing that stops me outright saying LeBron is better is his Finals record. But I think the Cleveland win over GS is one of the biggest feats in basketball.

 

Lebron Is close to 2nd behind Kobe, whether he is better than Kobe is the only Debate, he is not above MJ

 

I absolutely love Kobe.

But LeBron beats him in every category except Free Throw %, All Defense Teams made and Championships.

Of course there are factors you can’t track. The mentality Kobe had was Jordan level.

But MJ, LeBron is a far more balanced debate.

 

Kobe was a far better leader than Lebron but Lebron is an all around better offensive player, Lebron is still not at MJ's level

 

We can agree do disagree.

Btw I’m not saying LeBron is better, but it’s the two of them in the convo and nobody else which is my point.

 

Fair enough, I disagree but I do love debating the NBA with you

 

Knicks looking like they are going to blow it in game 7, guess I shouldn't be too surprised

 

Shouldn’t be too disappointed either, they are overachieving with that squad compared to others. Bright future.

 

Yep, still it was a winnable series, but know the ownership has no excuse to not go out and improve

 

Celtics would of been tough, but it’s not a super strong set of teams left. All beatable. Frustrating for sure.

Felt similar when the Heat lost to LA and then Denver in the Finals. Getting all that way was a surprise but you want to win it.