New Manager Needed

I said it before he most go now,as for saying nothing when we win i am not one of the people who get,s carried away,not like some people. we win one game and they think we are going to win the league

 

We were 2-2, Rassmausson comes on, Marco off.

3-2

N'Guemo off ki on.....

4-2

Keane off another striker on. So we're playing 4-3-3 with the whole midfield attackers. I think we all know the outcome. Great management if attacking is the best form of defense but bad when you take the players off who are actually doing their job on the pitch and overlooking the possible subs.

I believe that's how it happened

Sorry about the time line about that game but overall we're gifting opponents points when we shouldn't be. If the manager is going to cry about bad luck every two weeks we will be in 3rd place in no time. I'll repeat, he's a loser. If he dosn't get the win at Ibrox he should walk imo

 

He should resign the blame lies with him . its down to him and players , and the fact the manager cant even get a simple defence together really takes the * the fact at 4,2 up away to the dons we can * it up sums him and the club up perfect a * joke ,

 

My two cents is Mowbray has an eye for a player but tactically he is very nieve(spelling).

 

Wow i'm surprised Mike * Bassett is not on peoples must have list!! At this rate the next celtic managers future will be decided after his first old firm game of the season. Reality check-WE ARE NOT IN CRISIS just 10pts behind rankers. Chin up & grow a pair!

 

A new manager probably wouldnt make much differnece. The problem is we've got near enough a whole new team, so you'd be daft to think everything was going to be fine the now.

 

nobody would come to us at this time in the season, let mowbray see out his 1 year rolling contract

 

Robert Duvall would be my first choice!
From the Godfather to A shot at Glory

 

How can he see out a 1 year rolling contract mate

 

ha ha hey bobby duvall would be magic! Can you imagine the team talk: "I love the smell of ralgex in the morning". Or how about that dude in That Damned United, he looked good, nah second thoughts. . . .wasn't he tony blair too. . . . . .nah that won't go down well.

 

If Mowbray can get the team playing consistent and good football for the rest of the season, then I will be happy to see him continue on. If not, I'd like to see him go.

 

I'm undecided to be honest. On the one hand, clearly performances or results have not been good enough all season, playing the way we are at the minute we don't deserve to win the league. Saturday for example, was an embarrassment. 4-2 up with 15 minutes to go and we can't see out the match against a very average Aberdeen side. I'll tell you one thing, Rangers wouldn't have drawn that match in the same situation. We are very quick to talk about being a better side than them but at the end of the day we are ten points behind them and yet to beat them this season. These claims can only go on so long before we need to prove it.

The question is can Mowbray turn it around, and put together a winning streak from now until the end of the season (which I believe is absolutely essential for us to have any chance whatsoever of winning the league). If he cannot, and performances do not improve before the end of the season (meaning the team hasn't gelled in a whole season) then I cannot see where Mowbray can go from there. It says a lot that we don't have a regular starting X1 more than half way through the season. Some of Mowbray's substitutions over the course of the season have been bizarre to put it kindly, and at times I find myself questioning the sanity of the man. N'Guemo off for Ki on Saturday for example was a strange one considering how good N'Guemo is at breaking up the play in tough games like the one in question. It came across to me as a substitution for the sake of a substitution. Wholly unnecessary and while perhaps not the entire cause of our losing the two goals, it didn't help matters any. There have been countless other instances over the season as I'm sure everyone is well aware.

On the other hand, there has been a complete overhaul of the team since the end of last season. Mowbray has got rid of the vast majority of the deadwood that we all wanted rid of. He did not inherit a team who were getting results or playing well. Change, particularly on the scale that we have, takes time. Mowbray has spoken about building a team for the next 5 or so seasons, not just this one. There have been flashes of really brilliant play throughout the season, the problem has been in maintaining it. The second game against Rangers for example we were excellent in spells and played them off the park but as has so often been the case this season we couldn't secure the victory. If Mowbray can motivate the team (which appears to have been a problem thus far) to turn these flashes into 90 minute performances then we could really be onto something that could dominate the SPL for the next 5 years or longer. We will never know unless Mowbray is given time to get all his ducks in a row at the club. It is worth remembering that Sir Alex Ferguson struggled in his early years at Manchester United and David Moyes was far from an instant success story at Everton. Sometimes a manager needs a season to find his feet at a new club in the same way that a player might.

The board have heavily backed him and if he were to be removed a new man would need to come in and be backed with players of his own. This would cost a considerable amount of money both in terms of new players coming in and players signed by Mowbray that the new guy doesn't fancy.

There is also the question of his replacement should he be let go, who would be a realistic option? There is no one really that wasn't mentioned last summer that has become newly available (with Levein and Coyle both taking new jobs ruling them out). Other than turning to someone like Lennon or Paul Lambert I can't think who would be chosen to succeed Mowbray, and I don't think either of those two is ready for a job like Celtic. One thing is for certain, whatever the decision I would give Mowbray until the end of the season at least. Sacking him now does no one any favours and essentially equates to throwing the towel in for this season, which I don't want to see happen publicly. It's all well and good saying "Mowbray out " or Keep The Faith " or whatever but we need to think of the consequences of these actions and make the decision that is going to be best for the club in the long term, not make a snap decision that we may come to regret.

 

LOL get real

 

Give Mowbray until the end of the season just to keep the players from getting any worse from the change of managers, then even if he wins the double, show him the door and bring in a new man.
I would have liked Owen Coyle, but not now that he's left Burnley, I mean, he could have left us at any time?

I think we should do something different for a change, and instead of always wanting someone whose played for Celtic, don't do that.

How about Sven, he's out of a job isn't he?

 

keep the faith

Well i think personally Tony Mowbray should be given a chance as hes building a new team..Its time for every Celtic fan to get behind the team win,lose or draw.I thought the scenes at the end of the Aberdeen game were pathetic with the support throwing their scarves onto the park.Get behind the team for goodness sake we are meant to have the best supporters on the planet.The season hasnt ended yet and the team has to gel together,Mowbray will have the team playing the Celtic way just give him a chance.Tommy Burns was given the chance and i feel whether we dont win the league this season its not the end of the world as we will be 10 times stronger next season.Mon the hoops...

 

again, being told to get real, twas a joke, a bad one at that

 

Doesn't really show a good advertisement to a managerial job if a manager who overturns a ten point deficit in mid Feb, to win league then only to be sacked.

 

How can that top statement be serious.If the club were to turn this
season around it would be a fantastic achievement& you would sack Mowbray

 

It's football's modern disease. It's all about winning now and if you don't win, you're out the door. No one cares if you're trying to do something a bit more long term, it's the short term that counts. So manager get appointed and then sacked without having the chance of making their mark. Then the next lad comes in and the same happens to him. And the next one. And the next one. Then suddenly the fans are shocked to discover that this lack of stability has turned their club into an utter shambles.

Mowbray needs time. Of course I'm unhappy we're doing badly in the league, but is Mowbray totally to blame? Of course not.

People also need to be more realistic about the sort of managers we can attract. Owen Coyle turned us down and went to Bolton for crying out loud...

 

Exactly mate. It gets a bit tedious reading people posting things like 'Sack Mowbray and get Hiddink'. I'm all for being ambitious but you have to be realistic as well ffs.

I believe there is a form of extreme thinking prevalent on this forum just now. Whether this same extreme thinking is going on among the fans at the matches and on other forums I do not know.

It goes like this............

As soon as we win a match and play half decent it seems like a lot of people immediately think 'YESSSS THIS IS IT! This is the turning point in our season. We're going to go on a massive winning run now and pump the Huns twice and maybe win the league'.

Then two weeks later we lose or draw a match. Then all you hear '* off Mowbray ya * loser GTF. Mowbray's a clown. Our team's *. Our defence is *. Why was this guy not playing? Why did that guy get taken off? blah blah blah'

It's either one extreme or the other. There is no joined up thinking going on from some people. The bigger picture of what is going on at Celtic is really quite straightforward as far as I can see.........

We have undergone a massive upheaval this season. The player turnover has been unprecedented. When you let so many players leave the club and bring in so many new ones then there is one thing that is almost guaranteed to happen.......the team will become INCONSISTENT. It takes players time to get to know each other(both on and off the park) and it takes them time to settle into a pattern of play. It's incredibly difficult to put 4,5 or 6 new players into a team and for things to click straight away. The vast majority of the time football just does not work like that and anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain wrong.

Why do clubs sign most of their players in the summer months? It is so that they can get the new players in, give them some time to familiarise themselves with their new surroundings/team-mates and they can play some friendly matches to try and bed the new players in before the competitive stuff starts. There's been so much upheaval at Celtic this season through transfers and injuries that things have never truly settled down. Inconsistency is the price we have paid for that.

Now, some people might say 'Well why did Mowbray do so much surgery to the team then?' In my opinion the surgery HAD to be done. It had to be done for 3 reasons:

1. Our team had gone stale towards the end of Strachan's reign
2. Tony Mowbray probably didn't fancy a lot of the players so he had to get them out
3. A few of the players didn't appear to be playing for him

Most Celtic fans agreed that the team at the end of last season wasn't good enough and needed change. So it's a bit hypocritical to then criticise Tony Mowbray for trying to change it.

I really feel that people just have to understand that winning one game does not mean we have turned the corner. Just the same as losing or drawing a game doesn't mean that everyone is a clown and it is the end of the world. We are inconsistent at the moment because of all the changes that have taken place. Things will get better as the dust settles. Patience is what's needed.