Neil Lennon

Faithful through and through indeed.

Do you only support Celtic because we win most of the time? Personally I never tire of supporting Celtic win lose or draw.

For it's a grand old team..

 

More selective drivel. The way you pick and choose events and results to suit your opinion of Neil Lennon is actually cringeworthy. You want to completely disregard his achievements but scrutinise his faults, you need to sort your head out mate, if you could read what you type on here from an unbiased viewpoint you would be hitting the delete button. You spend an inordinate amount of time trying to convince people Neil Lennon is useless, people will make their own minds up about Lenny, trying to tell people to ignore his triumphs while banging on about the disappointments isnt doing you any favours. Im being serious when I say I see you as a bit of a joke to be honest, I read your posts for the comedy value. The level of biased negativity towards Lennon in your posts is pretty amusing, its a case of 'what the * is he going to come out with now', you really cant expect people to take you seriously.

 

Take the time to read the following sentences baw heed.

 

I think you mean Neil Lennon.

 

You're letting your dislike of that poster cloud your views on what he's said. You may not agree with him but he's made fairly reasonable points.

 

you thought right. Neil Lennon, Lenny, Neil, Lennon...whatever floats your boat. Id imagine you would go with - Neil 'worst manager in the history of football' Lennon.

 

Put it this way, let's say he wins the 10 this season and decides to leave next summer after seeing it through. What calibre of club do you honestly think would be in for him? The highest level I could see would be bottom half Championship clubs down south. But really, I wouldn't be surprised if he just chucks management altogether.

Whereas, Rodgers left us to go to Leicester who play in Europe and not too long ago won the EPL. MON went to Villa, an established EPL club.

He's a Celtic man and has shown he can motivate the team when we play better teams. He gets the club and he can transmit that to players. But I honestly think those motivational skills and man management are as far as it goes with him. I think when it comes to tactics, fitness, the more nuanced parts of modern day football - he is severely lacking.

 

Unlikely, if I'm honest.

 

How’s it selective when he’s mentioned the good and bad.

He’s not exactly wrong about what he’s said.

 

Well for a start, I don't claim he's as good as good a coach as MON was or Rodgers is. He isn't. I still think he's a good coach.

Regarding where he would go, I don't know. I don't think the English market is particularly rational for players or managers. I'm more interested in his record rather than speculation about where he'll go after.
First spell at Celtic- success. Bolton-fail. Hibs- success. First season and a half back at Celtic- massive success.

But how do you know? Neither of us have the foggiest idea what his tactical knowledge is. It's all just speculation. His results aren't speculation, and they've been good.

A lot of the criticism his tactics get are things that are forced on him. I've literally seen him heavily criticised on here for playing a false 9 when he simply didn't have a fully fit striker. What's more likely? That he had a one-off moment of madness, tried to be clever and got caught out (a conclusion that some on here drew) or that he (in common with a great many other managers) was not willing to risk a 3/4-fit, unproven young boy or a nowhere-near-fit new signing who hadn't started a game yet in a massive game?

 

Be patient. As key players either return or get match fit, you'll see a very different Celtic. Give it a few weeks.

 

I don't think being selective and making reasonable points are incompatible, though. It's what's left out rather than what's said that makes something selective. Here's a concrete example:

This is true. It's a reasonable point. It's also very selective as it ignores the fact that we haven't had the best squad in terms of available players so far this season. The Huns have. That will change very soon as we get folk back.

 

This. We had a wage bill of 60 million which was good for 10th in the Europa League a couple of years ago and I'd imagine it's only increased since.

We massively underperform relative to what we spend.

Management has definitely contributed to this (losing to Cluj and Ferencvaros in the manner we did is frankly inexcusable) but scouting is also a wider and more significant problem.

 

What exactly about that post was 'selective' ?

 

See this is where we're just blatantly setting different expectations. Massive success so far in his second spell?

He won the league and league cup. Of course that's success there. However, he's had two abject failures of CL qualifying campaigns, losing at home to Ferencvaros and capitulating at home against Cluj after a good result in the away leg. It was the same scenario against Copenhagen - good away result, then collapsed in the home tie. We've been second best in the last 3 games against the huns, who according to many on here have a pish manager and a squad that doesn't come close to ours.

If you deem that as massive success then I despair.

To your second point about tactics. What game are you referencing? Off the top of my head, he played Callum McGregor at left back against Cluj - we lost and got knocked out. That was quite literally a case of him trying to be clever and getting caught out. He played a midfielder up top against Ferencvaros, despite having Ajeti and Klimala fit and in the squad. Again, we lost. £8m worth of strikers on the bench, Klimala having been here since January, by the way - oh and Lennon signed him.

We're clearly not going to agree because your standards seem to have dropped to a ridiculous degree. Massive success is winning trophies and getting into the CL. Winning trophies and being knocked out by fairly average sides from Romania and Hungary is not massive success. It's going backwards.

When Rodgers was in charge, we would have been fairly disappointed to finish 4th in our CL group, and we were fuming when we lost against AEK in the qualifiers. Now some people appear to be fine with not even getting to the final qualifying round because "oh well, he didn't have his strongest XI available to him, what else could he do?"

 

Obviously ffs. But the way Moravcik responded did not indicate that he thought he was being reasonable at all.

 

Was Hibs a success? Yes. Was it anything worthy of getting the Celtic job? Not even close.

I’ve dissected it loads of times because I just wasn’t that impressed by it.

Stubbs didn’t get promotion his two years. But he got them 70 points and 2nd above Rangers who they then lost to in the playoffs. He then got 70 points again and was beaten by Falkirk in the playoffs. But that season he got Hibs to both cup finals, winning the Scottish cup.

Lennon comes in with Hearts and Rangers both out the league now and gets them promoted with 71 points. 1 more than Stubbs managed in 2nd and 3rd place. Just shows you. The cups were a none starter for him.

4th in the league first year back was great. He had a good team and had them winning. It wasn’t an overachievement with that squad. If Stubbs had done it I doubt he’d get anywhere near the credit that some Celtic fans seem to give Lennon.

He won 3 domestic cups out of 9 in his first stint. Are you happy with that? People seem to only talk about his success and sweep his failures under the carpet. It’s very strange. It’s not just black or white, success or failure. People are breaking it down and making their judgement in a logical way. You’re not. If anyone is selective it’s you, yet others are being accused instead.

 

Someone said it before but Lennon should be allowed to bring back mjallby our best defensive displays where with him and Lenny in the 2 games against Barcelona ..... I think their was a falling out between them two aswell didn’t take him to Bolton .... another falling out surprise surprise


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Disagree scouting a player buys has been ten times better under Lennon that Rodgers it’s the coaching where the team is being let down look at the signings Lennon has made past two seasons on paper it’s been more widespread and higher percentage of them are in the first team same can’t be said for Rodgers


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And? Your still finding it tiresome supporting Celtic, you think Lenny is a coward and a malicious liar.
Have I missed something slugger?