Neil Lennon

I would tend to agree with you, however the fact he has even managed a top tier club makes him more qualified than Lenny was when he first took over.

That being said, I don't think I could handle people slandering the great man if it wasn't going well for him.

 

"The board hold all the cards" is a load of bollocks. Yes, Lenny didn't manage to get an EPL offer, and couldn't keep a doomed Bolton side up in one of the most competitive leagues in football, but the board hold * all.

First off, we are performing significantly worse than when Lennon left, in both Europe and domestically. Didn't even get a win in the Europa League, knocked out of both cups before the final, not playing with any kind of style or steel.

Secondly, we have a first team that's crying out for an overhaul. A lot of fringe players who could stay or go. We know this board is keen on a 'cheap option', and Lennon has already built a squad fairly successfully at Celtic.

Also as others have suggested in this thread, he'd be the immediate fix we're looking for as he's worked with a lot of this team before, and we have potential to qualify for Europe (we were a ball hair away against Malmö 8 months ago).


They could do with Lennon just as much as he could do with the job. Wouldn't be 'disappointing' for either party imo.

 

* *. You'd think we're speaking about Fergie the way some of you go on about him on here.

 

He was though. To deliver league titles and CL football all the while having to turn a profit while buying and selling players is nothing short of miraculous.

 

Correct, i wasnt too excited by Lennon being appointed and he done a great job. Hard to say if Larsson would be as successful as Lennon, and like yourself i would hate for people to bad mouth him if he wasnt. Would ruin the legacy he deservedly has.

 

Also having to deal with the filth and their antics too.
Lenny came here, and instantly lifted the place, had a go at the deaddy Bears, under sir Walter and came out on top (head to heads). He was extremely unlucky not to win league in his first year. Well unlucky, and some more than controversial decisions led to him not winning it.
The zombies would * it if Lenny came back, they know exactly how good he is. I would love Lenny to be the one lifting 10IAR.

All that being said, Oneil with Keane get my nod, then Moyes, then Rodgers and then Lenny. But I would be far from gutted if Lenny got the gig.

 

Come on mate, it's really not.

There isn't a league title Lennon won that he had to really fight for. The huns were 20 points behind us the first one, then they were gone after that. Aberdeen have only really improved since Ronny's been here.

To get to the CL we had to beat Karagandy and Helsingborgs, two teams we should have beaten. We almost made an * of it against Karagandy as well.

In terms of the turning a profit. How many players were signed under Lenny and how many were sold for a significant profit? Wanyama, Forster and to a much lesser extent Hooper. Not a lot.

 

He clawed back the lead, and beat them in a derby at park head to take a one point lead. The fact they collapsed isn't lenny's fault.

You're using the fact that he nearly didn't beat a team, as a negative. Really ? :smiley-laughing002:

Matthews, Ledley, Kayal, Ki, VVD ?
You're looking silly here, mate :smiley-laughing002:

 

I don't think Moyes really wants to come here anyway. Reading between the lines of his comments I would say he is very much attempting to keep his options open in the hope that a 'better offer' will be forthcoming from a club down south. He may take the Celtic job as a last resort and if he does a good job he'll be off again within 2-3 seasons. I'm not overly excited by that prospect I have to say.

 

How many of Lennons signings wer actually his? How many wer forced upon him? How many players did he identify and was not allowed to sign for whatever reason?

The way i see it is that towards the end of his tenure he was having players signed for him, not his own choices but the compromise signings when the board wouldnt fork out for the players Lenny really wanted. I think if that was the case then i can see his heart not really being in it as much and therefore when it seemed that this was to be the norm he walked.

Just my opinion.

 

I didn't say it's Lenny's fault. But he didn't have to fight over an entire season for it did he? The Rangers team was woeful.

No I'm not. We got beat away at Karagandy 2-0. Aye the home leg was fantastic but we shouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

We sold Ledley for less than a million. Neither Kayal, nor Matthews went for over £2 million. Van Dijk, I didn't put in because he was sold under Deila but fair enough.

Not looking silly at all. We signed a host of utter duds under Lennon as well. It would interesting to see how much money was wasted.

 

i remember a while back strachan was discussing the manager job at Celtic. He said something along the lines of '3-4 years is a long time in the old firm hot seat'.

 

Don't bother he pops in now and again with a * Neil Lennon and away again

 

Recent history would tend to back up that statement. It would be nice if our next manager could stay around longer than that, it would give the club some stability and continuity.

 

The first leg was VVD's and Myokoulo's first game. And they both played together. We still overcame it, and it was a great match. I'd put it up there with one of best games I've been to. Not a negative.

Its accumulative though, all Lenny's players that have been sold, add up to a lot of money. Can hardly take it per signing. He also brought through Forrest, which was like a signing in itself, and had Forrest playing his best.

 

I agree. But at the same time, if it's 5-6 years, which is a long time. Then it could start to get stale. Which could be horrific. Especially if we're wanting 10IAR.


Don't think we'll get 10 anyways. SFA will never allow it. But that's another thread for another day.

 

Like I said though, overcoming Karagandy is expected. We did what we should have done.

They do add up to a lot but that's down to really 3 or 4 players from a batch of christ knows how many.

Forrest started off well then quickly became pish. The player he is now is the same player he's been for about 4 years.

 

Exactly. But you used, or tried to use the Karagandy result in a negative sense.

Of course, it's going to be a select group, from a larger group of signings. Every single manager signs more bad than good.
He also brought us Izzy, Mulgrew, Lustig, Commons and Stokes Who are still here, serving a purpose. Or they would/should be.
Got the best out of Sammy too. Which is let face it, a miracle.

Maybe the reason Forrest has became *, and not progressed is possibly because he's not under Lenny anymore ?

 

Cannot believe the attitude some folks on here have towards Lennon. Guy is a great Celt in my book, yet these disks are giving it every cheap wee dig they can come up with. Nutters

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Tell you what, one thing you absolutely can't slate Lennon for was his transfer record. It was absolutely fantastic and our abysmal record since he left really highlights that. He did an unbelievable job on that front.