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Naka's away

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Pearse, Apr 19, 2009.

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  1. HunSkelper

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    What a strange deluded little person you are.
     
  2. Dusty

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    Eh?

    And you say i follow you around? :rolleyes: You've just managed to talk about me with 100% irrelevance to the point of your post. :56:

    Anyways... we'll definately miss Naka, not necessarily a worse team without him but we would definately be a better team with him.
     
  3. Liam Scales

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    Exactly; up front and defence need sorted before midfield.

    I'll be sad to see Naka go but we have McGeady, Maloney, Mizuno, McCourt.

    That will be plenty for the SPL and we will do what we usually do in the Champions League and play through our teeth on pure adrenaline.

    In Naka we have had our closest replacement to Lubo but in the years since Lubo has left (and his decline when he was an old yin) we have been succesful.

    That's the crucial thing, good players, great players, legends they all come through Parkheads gates; Celtic always marches on succesfully.
     
  4. Leone Naka Fan

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    We don't have a complete product playmaking midfielder. Fact. We may have Brown, who I appreciate a lot, a dangerous man like Maloney, a human jet like Mizuno, but a good playmaker with some experience is what we lack. McGeady is good, but I would send him off somewhere right now for a good playmaker. He has no sense of teamwork at times, and is conceited as *, something that Naka isn't. Naka's way of playing is better for us. I agree with you on Robson, he is good, but at tasks he's adept in, and that does not include playmaking. Call me a nutter, but I'm telling the truth this time.
    I only hope devlin1888 is right, and we find a bargain AM again, that can do his job well. The fact is, we're in deep trouble now. You used to say we're almost a man down when Naka plays. Well, we'll really be like a man down next season, on the field, if we play with brawlers only. See Hearts game for result.
     
  5. Martin

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    I have a feint recollection of you accusing me of calling fans 'huns'. So it's kinda relevant here.

    When he plays well.
     
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    Thing is Leone, last season Naka was out for a long period, most of the year he was either injured or getting back to fitness.

    Who one player of the year last year? We have players who step up to the mark.

    I can guarentee Naka will leave and Celtic will barely notice. I really like Naka as a player, he is capable of the sublime but he's no Henrik Larsson.

    Celtic will go on and be succesful with Naka or without him. It's the Celtic way.
     
  7. DanniGhirl

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    I really don't see how you can say we are in deep trouble if Naka goes in the summer - he's one player, a good player yes but not irreplaceable. I think our midfield will be fine without him, yes I would like a replacement for him, but only if the defence and strikers are sorted out first.
     
  8. Martin

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    Yes, and that's with Naka in the squad.

    A human jet ? How does that work ?

    Naka is not the 'total' player you are suggesting. Calm down.

    Personally I think that's a bit harsh about McGeady tbh. Naka isn't conceited, I'll give you that. No one could question his genial mind.

    You're exaggerating hysterically the importance of your favourite player. The one you have in your name on here.


    There have indeed been games where Naka has disappeared. One in particular was against those hatchet men from Barcelona when Nka's performance was embarrassing.

    We'll be alright.:50:
     
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    I think this is the majority of peoples thinking.

    You need to see by your bias Leone. Naka's a good player but he's not a great.

    In the grand scheme of things he's below a player like Lubo for me but that shouldn't take away anything from Naka's ability, you really should stop taking anything less than adulation for Naka as an insult.
     
  10. Leone Naka Fan

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    When he was out, we were in problems, mate. When he came back, and Robson&Hartley battled in midfield, we managed to win. We cannot rely exclusively on classic wingers in SPL. McGeady, who will be Martin's main hope in the SPL, when Naka's gone, can easily be doubled up on. I don't believe even Mizuno can flourish without proper playmaker support.
     
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    I think we will miss the option of having him in the team but overall I think we willl cope easily without him. For all his good games he seems to have 2 where he is non exsistent.
     
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    gutting! :31:
     
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    We won the league. McGeady and McDonald kept us in it last year when Naka was out. That fact is indisputable.

    By far the best player in the run in last season was Barry Robson, who you say is good at the things he's adept in, well of course he is so is Naka. That's not a critizism.

    Now in the absence of Naka's passing ability the onus is put on somebody else... Gordon Strachan. Currently we play a system where Naka is relied on to make the magic happen and for the classic winger to run the left wing (McGeady) you either change the system or do what I would do. McGeady on the right Maloney on the left.

    Maloney is not a Naka in the passing department but he will score more goals, faster and I trust him to beat players more than i would Naka. We would become more of a counter attacking team with pace on both wings.

    We won't be in major trouble if Naka leaves, you can quote me on this one.
     
  14. Martin

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    I'm voting for you.
     
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    I'm honoured:52:







    Do i get some sort of prize:84:
     
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  16. Leone Naka Fan

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    If you're referring to inconsistency-I admit, he had bad games. But who in this team didn't?? He's the total package in terms of playmaking ability. Screw his lightweight build, that's not an issue.

    Mizuno may be faster than McGeady, and I know that, from watching him in the J-League.

    McGeady has a mentality that simply hampers his progress and usefulness on the pitch. For me, he's second pick to Maloney and Mizuno.

    Naka has disappeared from some games, but, again, so does many other good players. He's been pivotal to our style of play. We will survive if the board gives proper cash for somebody good. But if Hammer is right, they won't, and we're *. 5IAR is in danger.
    Brown, McGeady and Hartley cannot do all the fine passing. Only 2 men can. One is leaving. The other one is inexperienced.
     
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    nah man he's well past his best, he should have left at the end of the 07 season where we won the league away to killie, (the time He scored a last minute free kick) he's done nothing for the club since then!
     
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    Mizuno before McGeady is nothing but pure and utter bias Leone.

    Current Player and young player of the year. Mizuno is unproven. Looks a good player but has nothing on McGeady at the moment.

    McGeady and Maloney will be the way ahead, Mizuno and McCourt will be the back ups.

    We won't by a replacement for Naka, might bring in another young kid like Jeffren Saurez but we will not replace Naka.

    And as good as Naka is; that's not much of a loss. The question is why is that and the answer is consitancy.

    When Naka turns it on he's unstoppable, when he doesn't we are worse than a man down.

    Although I would say this season has been his most consistant, not his most brilliant though. If that makes sense
     
  19. Leone Naka Fan

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    Counterattacking would be hard to do in SPL, as we're faced with breaking bunkers, not inviting opposition to come at us. And they wouldn't come at us. Only Hearts, maaaybe. Crosas, when he plays, sits behind every other midfielder, that means Brown goes a bit more forward. Here's the issue:his long range shot isn't that good, and his passing isn't either. He cannot be a real attacking threat with these characteristics. That means we're blunt in the middle. Maloney is good, but pace doesn't help when there is a set defense. McGeady has the additional problem of being a greedy, overconfident *, so any smarter defender will know a way to stop him. The only other possibility would be incessant crossing to Jan/Samaras, but McGeady isn't a man who likes to do that, even if he is placed on the right wing, and looking at the height of CB-s in the league, it wouldn't really pay off much.
     
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    I was thinking more the champions league for the counter attacking.

    Maloney is the champion at running at players and winning fouls with his quick feet, that wins us games.

    Look at earlier on this season, Maloney won how many penalties in a row for us?

    Look at Maloney's link up play for McGeady's goal earlier this season.

    Look at how many assists McGeady had compared to Naka last season.

    Look at how many assists and goals Maloney had in his player of the year season.

    Your bias for Naka and Mizuno blinds you Leone. There's no point in debating about this until you realize that.

    Naka is probably 3rd name on the teamsheet for me after Caldwell and Brown but aall is not lost when he leaves. We change the way we play a bit and go on and romp the league.

    Be a Celtic fan Leone not a Naka fan.