Mowbray

I wouldn't say I love the board, I was annoyed as anyone when they failed to release cash to get players we badly needed.

You scoff at Dnipro but Hibs are hardly 'stalwarts' either, are they?

In fairness, 'a team for the future' won't necessarily be assembled in 2/3 years. They have changed things at the very bottom so it might take a wee bit longer, but hopefully that means we will see more home-grown Celts in the team.

 

It's easier to blame the board over the manager or playing staff in some people's minds. The board have supplied Mowbray with more money than any other teams in the SPL could dream of, they can't do much more. Fair enough if we're spending the same amount as Motherwell or Hibs (Who are only a few points behind us), financially we blow every other team out the water, and it's just not happening on the pitch, buck stops solely with the manager I'm afraid.

 

have to agree m8, this club has been painful to watch since MON left. the board does itself no favors with the absence of logic in almost everything it does.

 

Good point

Board have done their bit this season. That's all a manager can ask for.

 

yes and i bet you still believe in the tooth fairy! lawell wouldnt fork out for ramis or st ledger,which was critical! instead he brought in keane,who in all honesty we didnt need.this was lawell with yet more £ signs in his eyes! not the best interests of the team or manager

 

Not really any need to be so patronising is there?

Ask anyone how long it these changes need to take effect and you'll hear the same thing.

Arsenal are only just starting to get English lads coming through again, how many years after Wenger was appointed?

 

I agree with most of what you're saying here but I don't agree the buck stops SOLELY with the manager.

There have been several matches this season where we've played well but not won because of one of the following:

Centre backs dropping a clanger
Strikers missing sitters

The players, some who are here and some who have gone, need to take a share of the blame for what has happened this season.

 

6 SPL titles in the last 10 years, Several domestic cups, UEFA Cup Final, Last 16 in the Champions League twice. I suppose thats not good enough?

You were probably * about the board too much to actually enjoy the successes when they happened.

What does Mowbray know about running a business? Why should Celtic allow him to make financial decisions?

 

6 spl titles,when in honesty it should be 10! after the uefa cup MON wanted to have a proper go at the CL.the board would not back his ambitions.to me celtic should be reaching levels of knockout stage at least every season in the CL.this is not going to happen under the current board.and if you are happy getting beat in the smaller european tournies every 30 years,and class that as success,that would make you deluded! and never mentioned mowbray running any business?

 

Both down to confidence which TM is not installing IMO. For example; Caldwell was POTY last season, awful the first 5 months under Mowbray, moves to Wigan and is playing like he did last year - in a solid manner.


Mowbray's defenders have been a bombscare at every club he's been at, too much to be a coincidence.


I think this 'Mowbray plays good football' thing is a total myth aswell. I'v saw no more than 5 games this season where I'v been thoroughly impressed with our attacking football.

 

IF we were to go sacking managers that didnt win the league. Tommy Burns would have lasted a season, Martin O'Neill would have only won 2 titles then got the boot.

We need to give the guy time. He inherited a squad that most fans hated last season coz the football was *. He has now tried getting rid of them, and brought in his own players. We will need to wait until next season at least to see what will happen.

If we were to sack him, what would happen???? Another manager, with his own ideas, players, tactics. Probably shipping out most of the current squad, bringing in his own team, and probably being in the same boat as we are now

 

its because we are 10 points behind the dobs and cant beat the * when they have a * team! theres no getting away from facts.hes * it up,yet he still comes out with his after match drivel!

 

Even if we won every game til now until the end of the season they would all have to be extremely convincing victories. I have lost what little faith I had. Most areas which needed to be addressed were not done in the 1st transfer window i.e CB's, strikers that would score 25+ a season as we had lost confidence up there last year.
At the start of the season even pre-season we were looking like a capable side but I am in agreement with the above statement saying we haven't been playing amazing football week in week out.
I don't mind losing anything, although extremely upsetting, it is the manner in which we have lost, no handed over this league to rangers that makes me think can we afford to be in this state next year?

 

There's a difference between being in the title race and missing out late-on by a few points (Or in MON's case, goal difference) and having a totally embarrassing season where the league is over before Spring.

 

So let me just get this straight here.........

The ball drops to a striker 5 yards out from the goals with the keeper on his * and the striker puts the ball past the post. And that's Tony Mowbray's fault??

Aye very good.

PS. Gary Caldwell played under Tony Mowbray at Hibs and Gordon Strachan clearly deemed him good enough to bring to Celtic on the basis of what Caldwell was doing. Personally I just don't think Caldwell is that good.

 

TM is to blame for this mess that we are in, simple,we wanted change by * we got it, he went gung hoe shooting from the hip with a plastic gun
the players he inherited were not good enough for his style,but forced them to play the TM way,some of his new players that he brought in are suspect
now this is the gamble you take and i can except that,alot of TM fans think N'geumo is the best thing since sliced bread,the only thing i see in this team is flaws everywhere.
the whole season it was "The huns are *"but infact it was us that are * and it shows.i would not let this man near a dug out again

 

comparing what happened with MON to this? yer havin a laugh. this season is bombscare. MON should have won the title that year. this team shouldn't win anything with the way they're playing

 

You really dont know what you are talking about tbh

Our debt level was £30M, to continue in this vein would put us in administration. The board changed its policies so that Celtic could operate at a profit, the reason why Mowbray could spend all the money he's got.

Did I say that I'm happy with Mowbray? Buying players requires business knowledge, knowledge of what your club can sustain. Lawwell knows all Mowbrays wishes but only executes the ones which are financially viable for the club.

Mowbray shouldnt be in full control of transfers because he doesnt understand business. You are very naive to think that buying players isnt a business decision. I rather you stop talking about things you seem to know little about.

The board have done their jobs very well in getting Celtic into the financial position its in and have backed their manager with lots of money despite the recession, I dont see how you can blame the board for the players & manager not delivering.

How exactly do you sack the board of a PLC?

 

aye, i've seen him play for wigan and i don't see how people are saying he's this wonderful player again now that he's gone. just as dreadful as four months ago

 

Do you know anything about football? A player with confidence takes most chances, no-one in our team had/has confidence so it was miss after miss.


Take last season for example, our strikers were doing well until Christmas.......Strachan feuds with McGeady which obviously had a huge negative impact in the dressing room.....next few months the team is awful and the strikers can't hit a barn-door.