Mowbray Confuses me.

I'm glad to hear Tony Mowbray say that he's here to stick it out. Although he is hardly likely to say anything else is he!?

I do worry slightly that he takes such a blase attitude to conceding goals though. I want to see attacking football but I dont think you should just accept conceding goals as an occupational hazard. You have to keep things moderately tight, at the very least, at the back if you are to be consistently successful.

 

I agree in part. I agree with most of what you say in fact.

I think Lawell has become so * scared of another Bobo situation, where the Chief Exec of Bobo Balde, gave Mr Lawell a royal shafting of biblical proportions...it's left a mark on him.

He refused to sanction Caldwell's wage demands & he was our best CB & often a Captain too. But he then gave away all this "dead money" on loanees & ends out with 2 teenagers at CB at Ibrox....makes no sense.

Rasmussen looks to me, that he could be a better striker than McDonald - given the same opportunity of games/development Skippy had.

The no decent LB - is absurd, when you look at the money Lawell/WGS/Mowbray have spent on the team over the years. It was clearly needing sorted for soo long & Braafheid on a 6 month loan is just the latest example of mismanaging the situation.

It's really been a massive fail, at least Rangers bit the bullet & sacked Le Guen mid-season.

 

changed my above post - te title has gone to the last day in 4 out of the last 7 years (with us losing 3 of the last day races). It also happened with Wim and (I think) Burns. So I think the idea that the team last year was some kind of disaster that needed rebuilt completely was a myth. It just needd 3 new players. Many fans however bought into that myth and the board appear to have too.

 

I often find myself thinking we were too hasty in dispensing with the services of WGS. Gordon took us within two games of 4IAR, and if our forwards had put their shooting boots on that year, JVOH, Skippy and Sammy, we would have had that 4IAR, and probably WGS would have stayed to lead us to 5IAR, but instead we let him go and ended up with Muggins the Mule Mowbray.

Sometimes in life it is better the Devil you know, than the Devil you don't know.

 

I think the whole "Generation of Domination", myth that surfaced was a big, big banana skin.

The Board felt so self satisfied with their Financial performance & loved gloating at Rangers' apparant imminent financial collapse - it made them rest on their laurels, not sanctioning a quality striker in the Jan window & signing Flood was just 1 example.

We didn't push on from a position of strength & allowed Rangers to re-group, changing everything is a smokescreen for progress. Speaking of the future in terms of "change" & "progress" is a very political tactic for masking failure, Reid was *-a-hoop at the AGM, slagging off Rangers being close to administration. I wonder what he'll be saying publicly if they win the treble in the very same season.?

 

I think the fact the guilt extends above the manager is complicating the situation. The level of damage reminds me of the Barnes era so much. The manager, Lawell and most of the players he has brought in have to go and we need to start again in the summer. It will have to be done with a modest budget (a la Wim) rather than a MON revolution. The scary thing is all my concerns about Mogga have come to pass. Even I thought I was maybe being a bit ovelry worried given the low standard of opposition in the SPL but even that has not helped. I think if Mogga is in charge still come the summer you may as well go off and take up another hobby and ask a mate to text you when he is gone.

 

Glad he's gone. Never want him back either. I don't care how bad things are just now it was still the right move to get rid of Gordon Strachan. Boring boring football.

 

WGS was a real pragmatic manager who would (almost all the time) win one way or another. You really cannot ask more. We are very unlikely to find a manager again who can win 3 in a row and 2 CL last 16s with starting 11s that in total only cost about 12 million??? He got many of the same criticisms as Mogga-weird interviews, weird substitutions, constant tinkering with the lineups, some dodgy purchases, favourites but the big diffence is the worst he ever did was lose it on the last day and that was on the last day of a 4 year reign. Looking at 13 poins behind now. I think month by month since Moggas limitations have slowly become clearer WGS is a bit more appreciated. IMO opinion the board shafted WGS when all their attemps to bring in a quality LB, CH and striker failed in his last 2 years with us. I think that was down to Lawells Bobo experience and him playing hard ball with agents. The least they could have done for a manager who had given them 3 in a row and tow last 16s in the previous two season was to have pushed the boat out in the summer going into WGS's last season. Well it cost us a manager and two titles not doing so.

 

Maybe Mowbray isn't the right guy for us, but neither is Strachan anymore.

 

Agreed 100% Mowbray hasnt got the mental toughness to be a winner. That attitude is for a manager of a mid table team with low expectation levels.

 

You must be a style over substance chap then.

I think 4 years winning the title three times and just missing a 4th and teo CL last 16s is the kind of boring I could handle forever. I do not like the kind of exciting that gives Rangers a likely 13 point lead in February. Mogga is making us like his Hibs team. He is a complete an utter loser who has/will set us back 3 years. He has basically gotten everything wrong he has put his hands to since he got here.

 

Bang on the money

If the Board had invested the money that they have gave Mowbray to WGS, he would have imo won 4IAR.

A LB, CB and striker of quality that is all that was needed. You could say for arguement's sake if they had got Lee Wallace for LB, Tamas for CB, and Steven Fletcher for striker then Gordon would have in all probability delivered the goods.

 

Exactly mate.

That is his outlook on football and it dosen't work, People need to realise this and stop dreaming that next season it will click and we will be winning games 4-5 nil, not going to happen lads.

 

Not at all. I want substance with a bit of style thrown in. Not too much to ask in my opinion.

Strachan delivered a fair amount of substance but the football was *. That will never be enough for me. Clearly the way things have panned out this season isn't acceptable either. Only a fool would say otherwise.

Tony Mowbray has made mistakes, no question. He's dismantled Strachan's tired, stale team in double quick time and inconsistency is the price he's paid. One bad season doesn't make Tony Mowbray a bad manager though so I'm still thinking he's going to get it right in the end. If he does then his team will be infinitely more entertaining to watch than Strachan's ever was and once people see a decent brand of football being played then their eyes will be truly opened to just how dull things had become under the Ginger one.

 

Oh really? He seemed to have enough mental toughness to win the Championship with WBA.

 

i want him out!

i cant take his weird and strange tactics and substitutoins any longer.we sold robson and skippy! kinda wish we didnt now. and so far the only thing we have had to shout about this season is the signing of keane! i hope and pray we stop the treble but im not holding my breath here.

and all i can say is ? if mowbray is here next season? he better along with the team run through brick walls and show us they actuallty give a *.

 

Finally, someone that agrees with me!

Simply put, all season we have been unable to field the same squad of players for a long spell at a time. This is because of injury problems and transfers. Because of this, players have struggled to find a rythme and consistency, which makes it impossible to string together a long line of good performances and results.

Football isn't a complex thing. It really is that simple.

 

I just wish he would jump in a taxi and go back south of the border , He was a gamble that failed big time .

 

every tm backer bangs on about this championship with west brom but the fact is west brom are a yo yo team and almost every manager they have had in the last few years has got them promoted then relegated so this "achievement" was nothing special, also hibs only actually won something after he left and they got a decent manager to get the real best out of the same players mowbray was working with.