Motherwell v Celtic 19/4/14 SPFL 12:45

What are you on about?! It's not the law that should tell you it's not alright to call someone a * refugee! You're common * sense should tell you it's not a very nice thing to do. The criminalisation of Boys of the Old Brigade is absolutely irrelevant to this.

 

im away to smoke a cuban cigar and watch a repeat of the game,nice chatting hail hail

 

Not it's not, He's being a * by calling Skacel a refugee, Not a racist but a *.

Again Paddy Mccourt isn't a refugee so the point would be false.

There's always mad condemnation on here, People just love something to moan about.

 

Jesus Christ, are you being deliberately obtuse?

Paddy isn't a refugee, Skacel isn't a refugee.

It's the assumption that they come from countries where they had to flee with nothing and are a drain on their adopted countries resources.

Eastern Europeans are facing prejudice and discrimination in this country daily. Songs like that only serve to trivialise the problem and give more extreme people an excuse for their warped views.

 

Was quite disappointed with the defending today all round, which has been rare in our league campaign this season.

Ambrose and Forster at fault for Motherwell's first, van Dijk for the second, Izaguirre for the third.

Very unusual, not that it matters much though. It was an enjoying game of football all the same.

 

Call it what you want. Who gives a *? It's semantics.

I don't know whether you think you've stumbled across an impregnable defence there or not but it's nonsensical.

Have you ever thought that people just have moral compasses that are aligned differently to yours?

 

The song he sung * all over what our club was founded for and what we stand for.

Glad to see there are some Celtic fans who still uphold these principles.

 

The thing Leigh Griffiths is guilty of is being political incorrect..... that lad was in his own country and Skacel is not a refugee.

I'm sure we've all been wrong about these things in the past, maybe Griffiths just doesn't know the definition of "refugee" and needs to be educated a bit on the subject.

 

Martin Luther King was in his own country.

An extreme example I know, but it's just a point to show how ridiculous your attempt was at justifying it.

 

What? :smiley-laughing002::smiley-laughing002::smiley-laughing002:


What I'm saying is Griffiths used the fact that he assumed that lad wasn't from Scotland to have a go it........ he was wrong to do so as he is from Scotland and he was wrong to tell him to go back to his country even if he wasn't. I'm not trying to justify it really. What I'm saying is Griffiths is more guilty of political incorrectness than racism, if Griffiths was trying to be racist to that lad he would have made a derogatory statement about his race, which he didn't.

In saying that what he said was in no way justifiable, however it's more a case of political incorrectness (on both accounts) than actual racism,

 

So whats the famine song then, just politically incorrect?

Looks like you should be in the education class along with Griffiths

 

Pretty much, have never passed much remarks on the song myself to be honest. A tad discriminative, definitely not racist.

 

It's not the political establishment that's judging him here! It's us!

I know political correctness gone mad is an all encompassing sweep under the carpet but come on to *. Are people playing stupid or something? Semantics aside, calling people * refugees and telling them to * off back to their own country is hardly atypical of what most people hold to be racism. No one's being hypersensitive about it either. Personally, it has zero emotional impact on me but I still know it's wrong and that it had something to do with the guy being "other" - call it racism, xenophobia, whatever the * you want.

The fact that Griffiths was wrong about Skácel being a refugee or that boy being from another country is inconsequential.

You're last paragraph's ridiculous, mate.

 

He should be warned about his future conduct whilst he's a Celtic player and as far as he's concerned be "on his last legs". Possibly fined too. However I'm not sure what other punishment could be given to him...... that wouldn't be seen as OTT.


My last paragraph was in jest......mate.

 

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Race:

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.

 

Telling Irish people to "go home" is not racist because Irish isn't a race. We're essentially the same the "race" as most Huns.

It's sectarian and bigoted perhaps, but racist? Come on...

 

Mandela was in his own country. Coincidence? I think not.

 

In this section “racial group” means a group of persons defined by reference to race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37

 

Wow.... never knew it included nationality because nationality definitely isn't race and cannot be considered a race given the amount of times nations have changed throughout the years, centuries, whatever.....

This is why people say political correctness has gone mad..... regardless of the famine song, that's not the point.

Griffiths should be punished for his actions,I'll agree with that.... but he shouldn't be given the OTT punishments that have been suggested here.