Moon Landings

Of course it happened, besides their being mountains of evidence and objects left on the moon for scientific study which we still get data from, there are recordings of all the missions from start to finish, from liftoff and during the whole trip to the moon. They were also watch by soviet cosmonauts in space who would have jumped at the chance to say it was a hoax, but the cosmonauts watched as apollo 11 went on towards the moon, they actually cheered when they learned that it had landed safely because it wasnt just a great moment for America, it was a great and historic moment for humanity as a species, for all people everywhere, it was also the most watched and monitored.

 

I got my masters in Astro-Physics and im going for my doctorate soon, but in the meantime I have worked with several private space companies and last year I had the honor to me Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, I asked them what it was like on the moon, I bet they had gotten the question a million times but they still stayed there and talked with me about it for 20 minutes, It was the greatest experiance of my life and at the end I asked them if the soviets had ever tried to claim it was a hoax and they said no because they followed the whole mission and probably had spies at mission control

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wcrkxOgzhU"]Buzz Aldrin Punch - YouTube[/ame]

 

haha! well in, Buzz :icon_mrgreen:

 

Who said I thought it was a "conspiracy"

 

Why get so angry about all this ?

You claim it's all bullshit, obviously some things like aliens living amongst us obviously are * up crap but some things don't sit right. How do you know everything you believe is true ?

Your seem to think everything you believe is and always will be the truth and no one else can be right. And I'm not just talking abut this thread.

 

No, I haven't seen it but I'll look out for it cheers

 

I would tend to agree with things like this, but how can us mere plebs know for certain that it is a fact?

Truth is that we don't and most people tend to take official lines as gospel, but who's to say they are not lying?

It is human nature for humans to lie or distort the truth - that is a fact.

 

Your right, no one knows. Personally I feel if it was true people would have found out by now. Like big foot or the loch ness monster. Some form of evidence would have came into the public domain. That's the thing though, like ghosts or UFO's, until you see one you can choose either to believe they could exist or you can deny they do and ridicule everyone who does. Much the same as religious and non religious people.

 

What I will say is that Governments are extremely good at keeping information very secret and there will be information known to several of them that will never see the light of day - except for a few chosen people.

If they wanted to keep things hush hush then they would find it plausible to do so.

 

Oh FFS!!

 

Fantastic mate...you lucky *!I wish id been fortunate enough to take a career path like that.

For the record mate as you probably know more about it than most....does the earth not give a considerable amount of light to the moon, which would mean more than one source of light?

 

Obama doesn't have the final say on everything - that's how the U.S. government works. He can veto any bill passed in Congress and can pass executive orders which he doesn't need Congress to vote on. However, he can't introduce bills to the house and the house can ovverrule him if he does veto bills. The supreme court can also delcare laws passed unconstitutional.

The way the American system works is that Obama has 50% of the power - Congress has 50% and the supreme court has judicial oversight over both of them. Obama has also been a lame duck for the last two years because the House of Representatives has been Republican - although the Senate has been Democratic. That's why virtually nothing's been done in the U.S. in the last two years.

If your referring to the fact that their are over 500 other people who also have power in the U.S. federal government then you are correct - Obama doesn't have the final say on everything. If you're talking about some conspiracy where there are shadowy people telling him what to do - you're completely wrong. Obama isn't a puppet for anyone - he's the most powerful man in the world. Bush wasn't a puppet either.

 

Ever heard of Wikileaks?

I think you are seriously overestimating the abilities of governments in general and in particular the U.S. government. Which is completely inept at keeping anything secret. The only information the U.S. government is great at keeping secret is that which doesn't exist. However, its not really hard to do that.

 

Did Wikileaks leak every single "secret" the US government has to hold?

 

Wow, you think the US Government don't have secrets?
Not to mention more than any other organization in the world (which they do).

I'm shocked.

 

I'm sure they do have some secrets but those will be things that no-one cares about. If they were genuinely covering up a conspiracy it would be found out very quickly. People are constantly revealing government secrets in the U.S. As I said people who don't know much about the U.S. government seem to think they are brilliant at keeping secrets - they're not. I can think of quite a few things in the last few months which have been leaked.

The fact that the Obama administration reclassified all males killed in predator drone strikes as enemy combatants so they could reduce the number of civilian casualties.

The department (I can't remember the name) responsible for increasing efficiency and reducing costs in the government spending millions of dollars on a huge "convention" in Las Vegas.

In fact I just typed "U.S. government secrets" into google and this came up http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/08/31/49839.htm Someone trying to sell secrets to China.

There's so many historical examples as well - CIA involvments in coups, assassinations and funding terrorists. Watergate. Torture in Guantanamo Bay. Lying to the U.N. about WMDs in Iraq. And I'm sure there's many more. If the U.S. government was so good at keeping secrets why wouldn't they keep these things secret?

 

I have absolutely no doubt that the US (in particular) have some shady secrets they are keeping under wraps.

To answer your question - who knows how these secrets are getting out, but I would dare say that US are spending billions on homeland security each year to prevent the spread of information.

 

IMHO anyone who thinks the moon landings were faked must be retarded-its also disrespectful to the memories of the astronauts who had earlier died in a training simulator mission that went wrong-plus if "the russians" had been able to find out it was faked americas credibility would never have recovered-too big a pr risk in the cold war battle for hearts and minds