Miku

Were you at the game? he may have worked his * off ON the ball but off it he just stood and waited to get to it. I'm not disagreeing, it was by far his best performance but it wasn't exceptional like everyone is making out.

Forster had an exceptional game, as did Wanyama, Wilson, Lustig, Matthews and Watt. By comparison to other performances, Miku was good, but he was no where near the best player on the park that night.

 

but saying that, I don't really want him to leave. I've said he's pish but i think I may be judging him a little early, think a year loan deal is about the right length of time to settle and if he's still not turning up by summer then punt him back to Spain.

 

Nobody said he was the best player on the park, he put in a good performance and was a massive part of a great result. Not one person has said he was exceptional, I thought his off the ball work rate was very good, as was the rest of the team. He shut down space very well.

Suppose it's down to opinions though, if we had any passengers in that team though we wouldn't have won.

 

Just comparing Miku's goal scoring rate at his various clubs (source with the exception of his loan at Celtic is Wikipedia, so there might be some margin of error):

Valencia (2004-2010): two appearances, no goals (0.0 per cent)
Alcoyano (loan, 04-05): 21 appearances, five goals (23.8 per cent)
Salamanca (loan, 05-06): 36 appearances, 18 goals (50.0 per cent)
Ciudad Murcia (loan, 06): eight appearances, no goals (0.0 per cent)
Valencia B (06): 15 appearances, one goal (6.7 per cent)
Gimnastic (loan, 07-08): 29 appearances, two goals (6.9 per cent)
Salamanca (loan, 08-09): 37 appearances, 15 goals (40.5 per cent)
Getafe (2010-): 85 appearances, 24 goals (28.2 per cent)

Celtic (loan, 2012): 10 appearances, one goal (10.0 per cent)

Seems to me he only scores when he's at Salamanca.

 

Which tier are Salamanca? Second?

 

Fair enough I suppose, I'm just not a massive fan yet, I hope he turns it around!

 

I don't understand how anyone can say he's too good for the SPL. He's clearly quite skillful but hasn't got much else going for him. But if he was too good he'd be banging in goals. I hardly think the same people would be saying no to Messi because he's "too good". Its just an excuse to not admit you were wrong.

 

I agree. It seems like quite a logical fallacy.

 

he gets outmuscled nearly every time,hes not for us move on and next please

 

Spanish third tier at the moment.

Salamanca were in the third tier during Miku's first loan spell with them and in the Spanish second tier during his second spell.

 

Well you've pretty much answered your own question.

When people say "good" they mean skillful - as in "good at football".

They mean he would flourish in a league where actual football ability was at a premium - rather than kicking folk, clambering all over them and barging them out the way.

Sadly we are stuck in the SPL for the time being, and it's a league for kickers, clamberers and bargers. But if we selected our signings for those abilities, we would be a laughing-stock in Europe.

 

Dissapointed it hasn`t worked out for him. Wish he was given some more game time. Fantastic against Barca and looked good against Dundee United when he got his goal but we`ll move on anyway

 

Could you talk without using vague and inacurrate sterotypes and generalisations. Seriously unless you're going to back up your argument with facts then you're quite clearly either trying to make stuff up to avoid admiting you are wrong or so blindly in love with Miku (and ignorant of the realities of Scottish football) that there's no point discussing it with you.

 

I'm not The (The) Hand but I wanted to pick up on that. Maybe because I like Rafa Benitez so I like facts too.

Well here's one fact for you: Miku scored 12 goals in La Liga and 1 in the SPL so far.
So what conclusion do you draw from this?

Either he, like many others, is "too good" for the * standard and physicality of Scottish football.

OR the SPL is actually far better than La Liga and we've all been fooled.

Which do you think it is?

 

Its a difference in expectation, im not sure how big Getafe are but their fans certainly aren't as demanding as Celtic fans.

At Celtic a disaster is right around the corner when we don't win! Some players thrive in that kind of environment and others can't handle it.

 

Charlie Adam scored 12 goals in the Premier League. Yet couldn't get into the Rangers team. Maybe you've picked up on something. SPL, best league in the world?

Seriously though. If Miku was our first-choice striker - he'd probably score 10-15 goals over the course of the season. The problem is, that's not good enough for us. For a team like Getafe who don't really have any pressure to succeed. Yeah you can swan about and not put much effort into any game other than the Barcelona and Real Madrid ones. But that simply isn't good enough for Celtic. Tony Watt understands that, and always works hard, which is why he's a better player. I think Tony Watt is technically a better player as well. Miku has a good first touch but that's about it. Not a good finisher, not very strong or quick or good in the air. Maybe our style of play doesn't suit him. But at the end of the day if you can't adapt to the style your team plays your not good enough to play for them.

Also, as I said when we first signed him. 12 goals in La Liga isn't that impressive. Especially when he only did it once.

 

Lets get one thing straight here, he isn't "too good" for the SPL. Henrik Larsson was too * good for the SPL; Miku is a good player; who so far has been in no way suited to the hussle and bustle of Scottish Footballer.

Which by the way; isn't as full of cluggers as people seem to think; since the Huns died anyway.

 

Still like him, I have seen enough of him to know he is not a * player. However, it might just not work out for the lad.

I will still back him though.

 

Not been impressed so far. Strikers are paid to score goals. Dud.