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Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by ILoveTheCeltic, Oct 20, 2012.

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  1. CH4 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Not fit to wear the No 7 jersey.
     
  2. avitar Gold Member Gold Member

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    still think its too soon to hate on him but glad he's only on loan
     
  3. CelticFC1967

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    I think people are being quite harsh on him. His only 2 starts he has been deployed without a strike partner. He has some good hold up play and nice touches and flicks but without someone playing off him it isn't going to work. Was impressed with him when he came on against St. Mirren.
     
  4. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Fortune was a decent player in an awful team.

    Bangura is finding for again in Sweden and still think he can show us up.

    Miku has scored goals in a league miles ahead of the SPL so he is obvious a player... just needs time and a goal.
     
  5. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    His goalscoring record isnt that great actually, had a couple of so so seasons at Getafe and famous for scoring against Real Madrid.

    The fact he has had an extraordinary amount of clubs would suggest that he has a problem fitting in as well. I dont hate the guy, he just doesnt impress. I would rather we gave Watt a chance.

    Also on Saturday, his movement was awful. He was the lone striker, but played up top through the middle. Rarely dropped off or go wide. He seems to like to try and hold the ball up, but he isnt strong enough and he doesnt look to get into the box with any sense of urgency.

    I would also say, that along with most of the other players on Sat, he should be doing a lot better against a Killie side that has been struggling.
     
  6. Sean Daleer Show Israel the Red Card Gold Member

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    I have to disagree with this. I made a point of watching him a lot during the game and he made countless runs that weren't picked up, he played on the shoulder of the defender and made a move, when that wasn't happening he started to drift out wide and still wasn't picked out.

    He also had the knockdown for Ledley in the first half that Joe should have buried.

    It's really unfair to judge him on a game where he made many intelligent runs but the ball constantly went side to side or back the way.

    Maybe his workrate wasn't on a par with say, a Kenny Miller but I wont hold that against him :icon_mrgreen:
     
  7. CelticFC1967

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    I agree, the majority of games he has played the lone striker role - start him with a partner and we will see him play better.
     
  8. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    Nah, he didnt mate. His movement was really poor. We constantly had possesion where our midfielders had no options up front. I dont think his runs were intelligent, he was up against Kilmarnock defenders who have been shipping goals all season. He made it too easy for them. Very lightweight as well. He had one knockdown for Ledley right enough, pretty much his sole contribution. Watt would have given us far more options.

    And he was a lone striker, but given that Forrest and Commons were pushed up as well, he wasnt isolated. He may get other opportunities, but needs to produce a * of a lot more than he has shown so far.

    I wouldnt compare him to Kenny Miller either.
     
  9. Sean Daleer Show Israel the Red Card Gold Member

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    I wasn't comparing to Kenny Miller, quite the opposite in fact.

    And the amount of times he made a move into space only for the ball to go from left to right or vice versa was criminal.

    This isn't even an opinion, it's fact.. I made a point of watching him.

    If we had a creative midfielder picking out his runs then he would have done some damage.
     
  10. ILoveTheCeltic

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    I seen him do that often too, but I wouldnt class it as movement or good movement. He was going into places where the ball wansnt going and it wasnt the fault of others.

    He was just making the wrong choices or going way way too early then it ended up we had to go backwards because rather than him be in the middle when we had it on the left wing as an option, he was standing away over on the right wing and nobody was in the middle. Then as the ball went back and came back up he'd done the same thing again and so we kept going back and forward like the chuckle brothers.
     
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    I watched the same game and he was a statue most of the time. Unable to create space and lose his defender, a Killie defender mind. I made a point of watching him as well. And, he wasnt the only one, but he gave us very little on saturday.

    You cant honestly think that the performance he gave us on saturday was acceptable?

    You could argue that he should get a few games, but why shouldnt Tony Watt get a few games to get a run? And we know that Watt has ability.

    Right , I see what you did. It wasnt a comparison with Kenny Miller, but someone like him. Gotcha.
     
  12. Sean Daleer Show Israel the Red Card Gold Member

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    Seemed like good movement to me, the problem was we never had anyone in midfield on his wavelength.

    Surely that is the whole point, to play to someones strengths?

    Dare I say a Ki might have had a field day with the runs Miku made the other day :fear:
     
  13. ILoveTheCeltic

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    For me it wasnt even runs, it was wandering. He kept going out mostly to the right wing but it wasnt quick runs looking for the ball, it was wandering then standing there waiting.

    Watt would have been harrasing everyone on the park to get the ball and running about mental looking to be played in. Miku was day dreaming and floating about lost.
     
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    I was delighted with the signing but he has failed to impress so far. Give him a couple of games playing just of Hooper and I think we will see the best of him. If he doesn`t pick his performance up soon though, he will be further down the starting order with Stokesy returning in a few weeks
     
  15. Sean Daleer Show Israel the Red Card Gold Member

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    He constantly made a run off the shoulder of the last defender only to end up in an offside position after the ball wasn't played into him. I was was * screaming for people to feed him the ball. :smiley-laughing002:

    I don't think it was acceptable no, but I'm not going to write him off. just yet.

    I can't disagree with that but that is because Watt puts in a shift, he was just as effective as Miku (he never scored) but yet gets pass marks for chasing lost causes, putting himself about and generally making a nuicance of himself.

    I would love Scottish football to get away from that mindset.

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    Why were we playing with 1 striker at home to Killie? He was 2 steps ahead of our midfielders who couldnt give him a decent ball. We dont have the creative midfielder a guy like Miku would thrive playing with. Yes he doesnt have great physical pressence or he isnt going to run around like a headless chicken but he does have ability. Why we were playing with just him as a lone striker at home is unreal, add to that the rest of the team had stinkers also yet Miku is the one coming in for major stick.
     
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    I just haven't taken to him for his lack of work rate and desire. He looks like playing for Celtic is a job and comes across as if hes too good for us or something. Just something about him that comes through each time I watch him. Each time i've seen him I have disliked what i've seen.

    In comparison to Lassad who actually looks lively and out to prove himself.
     
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    * sake I'm agreeing with you :smiley-laughing002: :86:

    One up front was just weird.

    I think Lenny was trying something with Barca in mind, the lack of runners from midfield was just bizarre.
     
  19. Sean Daleer Show Israel the Red Card Gold Member

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    Agreed about Lassad. I have been more impressed in the short time I've seen him.

    The thing is, maybe Miku is a good player but our style doesn't suit him.

    Couple that with his dislike of the weather and the culture and maybe it's not going to work out.

    He probably thought he was going to walk into the team as well, coming from Spain.

    I think the problem we have sometimes is we buy strikers who are adept at finding space behind a high line because they come from smaller teams who are pinned back a lot. When they come to Celtic they have to try and find space in amongst 7 bodies, not easy.

    Still not going to write him off but I doubt he has much more chances to shine, what with Stokesy back in 6 weeks or so and Lassad will be chapping the door soon...
     
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    Lennon made a * of it but Miku seems to be the one who is taking the blame for it. Wait and see now tomorrow no doubt we will be playing 2 up and Miku will be on the bench rather than getting him a few games and getting his fitness up and getting him match time with his team mates to they both get used to playing with each other.

    They are different type of players, Lassad is more inclined to pick the ball up and run at players but Miku isnt that type of player. Hes a striker that needs good service which he hasnt received in the fleeting appearances he has made.
     
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