Michael Nicholson

Don't get why people rip into Dom McKay when we do not truly understand the ins and outs of that whole situation.

What I do believe is my eyes and from a quick Google search we signed the following whilst McKay was here:

Abada
Hart
Kyogo
Jota
McCarthy
Sales
Juaranovic
CCV

With the exception of McCarthy, every single one of those signings played a part in recent success, albeit scales only being a recent success.

Unless I missed a very important article that highlights big deficiencies in McKay, then I am inclined to believe he was chopped is because he was very un-lawell like. I seen suggestions he overspent, or lost money on heavy sell on clauses but as a club with the bank balance we have then yes, you should flex financial might every now and then.

As I say, McKay was an absolute opposite to Lawwell. Doesn't mean McKay was faultless but his transfer window set up some of the best football we seen in years

 

There was talk about us being so unorganised and a nightmare to deal with because of that under McKay, we would have several people negotiating with clubs, not answering then 2 people answering and contradicting each other etc.

And the two we know McKay got involved in the nitty gritty contract wise, were GG and JJ and both seemed to have clauses for low offers getting accepted. We did pay little for both as well, so if he was the guy negotiating fees there, I’m fine with it anyway.

What he was exceptional at was dialogue with the fans, it was him that made up the clip that filmed Ange training and the We Don’t Stop stuff that became the battlecry, he involved the fans more. Never left them in the dark. I don’t think that would have been popular but I also don’t think he was competent at the other stuff. He was an exceptional PR man I think.

 

Thanks for the explanation. The being disorganised bit is not something I come across before and good to be enlightened on that one.

Can't help but wonder though, if Dom brought that many quality players in one window with a disorganised approach then what in dear * are the lawells doing? If the lawells are seen as organised then I never want to associated with the word organised ever again in my life!

 

When he was his own man he was great not that fat * is back he is a puppet. Used to be great with fans now another *

 

Perhaps GG and Juranović wouldn't come unless the contract contained a low release clause. McKay thought the short-to-medium term benefit was worth it, and sacrificed resale value. Unthinkable for DD and the board.

 

I don’t know all the ins and outs but what I heard was McKay wanted to do what Lawwell never did, he looked to delegate to others on things he didn’t understand. That led to chaos as basically I don’t think anyone else at the club had much experience as Lawwell used to do everything as CEO.

To me I would want my club, run by a CEO that focuses on commercial and communication and brings in a Sporting Director or Director of Football to run that side of the club, including Sports science, recruitment, performance and analytics.

As a club a budget is set for the Director of Football and they are left to get on with delivering within that, including wage structure, transfer budget and have a role in advising what infrastructure improvements regarding training and performance are required.

CEO runs the business, they negotiate with sponsors, they engage with shareholders and major stakeholders. They work with their leadership team including finance director and sporting director, head of legal etc. You are a figure head for the club not the person running recruitment or negotiating transfer deals.

That window that McKay is getting the blame, I would speculate he tried to delegate and realised he has no one to delegate too, he had Desmond major shareholder but no official role at the club claiming to have rolled up his sleeves and got involved to get transfers over the line, you have Frank Trimboli or members of CAA base representing the club because the manager can’t trust the club to do it and as a result we miss out on players who are asking what’s going on. All the above screams shambles and that is what we are basically still doing.

 

Felt this thread needed a bump. He needs to take responsibility for what's going on at the club.

 

Spineless *. He’s letting Lawwell and co run all over him. That’s my own take based on * all

 

It might be coincidence, but when I was researching whether any other manager had ever been backed so little in their first season as Rodgers has been this season (spoiler alert: there was only one and it was Mowbray), I also discovered a window where we got as many good players as we did that summer McKay was here and wouldn't you know it, it was the summer after that Mowbray disaster:

Hooper, Forster, Izaguirre, Commons, Kayal, Ledley, Mulgrew.

Interesting, huh? The two standout windows were both after our two most disastrous seasons. It's certainly suggestive.

 

After the window closes. His first course of action should be to sack Mark Lawell. But he won't as Peter Snr, would have his guts spilled on his heated driveway.

So he's a complete patsy. Total stooge. Yes man.

Showed promise for a period but guess that was Ange driving it all. Reduced to doing what Peter wants.

 

Does this guy speak?

 

Difficult to talk with his tongue so far up lawwells fat hole

 

Where’s the four quality signings?

 

Honestly, there has to be a collective action here with a consistent message. Whole thing is absolutely baffling.

 

I was thinking about this the other day too. In an absolutely mental way I could see us spend more this summer if we fail to win the league and don’t have the guaranteed money from CL than if we do.

Lennon actually was backed heavily all be it funded by KT money in his first full season back. I know he seen out the 18/19 treble but the football was atrocious. We then sold an injury prone KT and spent most of that fee on new players, a number of them weren’t successes but they did spend a fair bit.

I would argue Ronny was the one who wasn’t backed we signed about half a dozen loans and only spent £2.5m on Scepovic. We brought in £14m in sales. Under Mowbray he got Fortune who he wanted as his main signing and money spent on a few others.

 

Will always remember this guy for his reasoning for not building a new main stand …. It will cost 100 m ……. Now Real Madrid turn over 600 m that’s six times our turnover and bernabeu cost them 1.2 billion …. A club with 5-6 times our budget built something ten times the cost of a new main stand Celtic can afford it they just have no vision at this minute in time


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He has let the lawwell dynasty run all over him, any credit he had in the bank with fans is totally gone.

 

Mate, we are going to need to do a Juve and reduce our stadium size soon enough. The last thing we need is a bigger main stand.

 

Another * stealing a wage.

 

The stadium size debate is actually interesting in being a symbolism/metaphor/illustration of the two paths we can take as a club.

We've a waiting list, that if we was to expand the main stand, we would fill it and still have a waiting list of a few thousand.
That's on the basis that we are doing well and progressing.
Increase stadium, equals more season tickets, more match day revenue, over time pays for itself and becomes extra funding the club can use.

But the club need to first show they have progression and ambition.
This waiting list goes up and down depending on the club input.

Under deila, things got sour and we had to close a section. A year later under Rodgers, that show of ambition to get such a manager spurred us on to opening that section and having a waiting list.
Under Lennon and the COVID season, that wait list reduced again.
Ange, after initial concerns dropped, we saw the football and the proactive dealings in transfer windows and the wait list grew again.

This is completely on the board and club, if they want it, they know they can get more money from fans and from European football.

But like all too often in big business (this is what they see us as), they are too happy to do the bare minimum to keep the status quo and their income safe.



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