[Link] Martin Odegaard Season long loan move

Not really being a primadonna just saying he doesn't want to play for B/C teams imo.

 

In a way if its true I can understand the player always said that he wanted to go somewhere to develop and if there is a clause he is contract saying he was to train with the first team it should be honoured. Even though I think there was 80,000 other reasons why he signed for them. Still then he is atm at their B teams level and should realise that.

 

Birds of a feather

 

Exactly how I feel.

 

Ødegaard is not on 80k pr week.

Castilla is absolutely *. They would be relegated from the Scottish PL. Everbodys just fending for their own, and Ødegaard gets the ball only if there's no other option (it sure looks like). Zidane not playing him could be what's best for Castilla, but only cause of his team "mates".

As previously noted on here, Ødegaard went to Real because they could provide him with an everyday consisting of training with some of the player in the world. That's how you get better. And remember, he has Deila's philosophy inprinted in his mind; It's all about progress. And now, during training with the national team, Ødegaard was better than he was, and he totally dominated. In the match he was 1 of 4 that played ok (Stefan being one of the 3 others), and you could still see why Real wanted him.

Could he ever come on loan here? I don't know. Cause it's better to train with C.Ronaldo than play with J.Guidetti. But having a sting here while there's a CL-qualifier going on, that could may be of interest for him and Real.

Oh, and I don't see why everyone's suddenly having a go at his person (on twitter and so on). This kid is so friendly and down to earth and you wouldn't belive it. My wife sometimes encounters the national team and while everybody else is wearing their tattoos and headphones, he wears a smile, is humble as * and provides polite conversation where other players just can't be bothered.

 

Not reading anything into his situation at Madrid, probably exaggerated rubbish. In terms of him maybe coming on loan here, it might be smart for him but would he get a regular game here?

The position he plays is our strongest area in the team, and according to Deila he isn't even as good as Commons.

 

Would be an amazing signing... Stefan & Odegaard linking up for club and country :icon_mrgreen:

 

After todays match, there's no question about it; the Castilla players despise Ødegaard. He didn't get a "single" pass and he was making himself available "all the time". To speak internet lingo: they are hatin' on him.

He needs a new club to play for. Zidane doesn't seem to be capable enough to handle the situation.

Give him a call Ronny!

 

I've not paid attention to this situation, the * is going on over there? They all turning their back on the kid because of the hype/price tag on him etc? Or is there a massive attitude issue?

 

His team-mates certainly don't like him. My personal opinion is that they are jelly, cause he has in his clause that he is to train with Real Madrid, on which Real agreed and that is also why he chose to go there, which leads to all the other Castilla players being salty as *, cause he is ''of priority'' to Real.


He has zero attitude issues .Also, he is one of like three openly Christians(!) in Norway and lives like a good one, with said values and what not.

 

Is he even that good though?

Did he rip Norway apart and be clearly too good for that League or was he just an ok Norwegian League standard player at 15/16 so people think he'll be great?

Ronny has said twice that he wouldnt get a game for us, which leads me to think he is probably a similar standard of player to Henderson although 2/3 years younger to be fair to him.

 

I've only heard good things about his attitude so I'm inclined to believe it. However, it's important to realize the different culture he's being put into. Norwegians can appear to be quite distant people, so training with the first team is obviously not going to help him socially. I disagree with rainbow in that there is some real quality in the Castilla side. B teams rarely have a ton of depth, but the top end talent that they have will be looking to have careers in La Liga even if they don't catch on at Real. The special treatment plus the cultural differences could easily be giving rise to simple differences of understanding. I don't think anybody is to blame as there's not a lot of precedence for this sort of situation, it will be a bumpy ride.

 

Think that's a white lie from Ronny - talking up his own players. Come on. Commons anno 2015 or Ødegaard? That's Ødegaard 24/7, 365. He may not have the physiç, but he has a footballbrain maybe only a 7 year older Bitton can match, so he always "does the right thing". But what's most impressive is that he has taken every level presented to him, and now he's a starter on the National Team playing just as good as Stefan, but also playing far more skillfull.

 

Deila has a fair appraisal of him. I think sometimes Norwegians can get carried away with where he's at right now, but he has showed that he's able to consistently improve. When he first started getting game time, he was what you described. A clever Tippeligaen player who only stood out because of his age. At the end of the year, he was clearly in the top tier of talent in that league - to go from ordinary to one of the best in about 6 months is a good sign. I didn't see his last match against Croatia, but I heard good things, so it appears he is doing the same at the international level. However, I think talent-wise he is still Tippeligaen level after seeing some of his early Castilla matches before all of this came to a head. Deila is right when he says that he is perhaps the best player in the world at his age, but in the end that means that he's still 16 years old. One thing is for sure, if he doesn't live up to his potential it will not be due to lack of effort. He will do everything he can to improve. My only worry is that he is a player who has clearly benefited from the guidance of a very involved father and that he has merely skipped levels of his development that others take years to pass through. In other words, his ceiling might not be that high, but he's going to reach it much quicker than others.

 

I don't want to pick on you, but this is the type of statement I think does him more harm than good. Norway is obsessively following him and putting unnecessary pressure on him and his dad. People are getting far too emotionally invested in his development and it's just not true to say that he is clearly better than Commons this year. Let him develop.

 

Do you think he'll go out on loan from Real in the summer?

What style of player is he also, i've never seen him not even a highlight. Is he a Messi/Mata/Silva style player or a winger or centre-mid?

 

If I were to put money on his development, I'd say he'll be very similar to Silva when it's all said and done. He's incredibly polished already for his age, but he needs to be able to think quicker. I think that's the next step for him to take - his movement and awareness are excellent already (not to mention flawless technique) but he needs to do the steps faster to move into that higher echelon of talent. He's ok on the dribble but won't be able to slalom through a defense like Messi does, partly due to the fact that he doesn't have that same burst that a lot of the elite-level forwards and attacking midfielders have.

 

The pressure sure doesn't come from a Celtic forum But I know what you're saying.

IMO he's better than Commons, this year. Like yesterday, Commons didn't do *. Only took shots as fast as he could when he had the ball, with Stevie Wonder's aim. Ødegaard would have trashed Inverness as they surely are worse than Molde or Rosenborg.

 

It's obvious just from watching highlights that he's elegant as * on the ball. As far as raw talent goes, we don't have anyone close in our squad. I can't speak about his all round game, but I imagine Ronny's just trying to temper expectations for the boy.