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Maik Nawrocki

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Notorious, Jul 22, 2023.

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  1. Onefootwonder

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    I thought he played well in the first half. I don't think he did badly at their goal either. Miovski moved the ball really well.

    When the rest of the team started the second half badly and looked shaky he looked shaky. He's new to the team and needs confidence. He needs the more experienced players to help him.

    Playing in our defence is going to pull any player down.
     
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  2. DonnyCelt

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    Scottish Hun with a headline about how lucky he was to not see red while conveniently failing to mention his first yellow was beyond a joke.

    And also no mention whatsoever of Goldshun studding a player in the midriff in the run up to a huns goal.

    Yet we're still to believe there's no bias in Scottish football.
     
  3. Sween

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    I thought he was a shitebag today. Needed subbed off before it happened and lucky not to see red. How bad must lagerbielke be when he can't get on the bench nevermind start when our defence is as shaky as it was today?
     
  4. Onefootwonder

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    What chance do we have when our own supporters post stuff like this?

    It was a trip, but it wasn't a bad foul. His first yellow was never yellow. Phillips ran into him.
     
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  5. Big C

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    Really poor for their goal. Showed him onto his better foot, really really poor. I know he’s been out for a while but he looks really really slow. Also backs off too much for me, needs to engage people running at him rather than retreating into his own box all the time.
     
  6. Qué sera sera Gold Member Gold Member

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    The elbow in the face Bernie copped wasn't mentioned in the SKY analysis (no laughing) either, but they emphasized that we should have had a red. If that elbow was by a Celtic player they'd have been all over it, only one replay angle shown of the penalty claim also, he deliberately plays the ball with his arm to stop a goal bound shot.....
     
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  7. NomDePlum

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    Elbow looked accidental when I saw the replay. Player on a yellow can't challenge like that. Definite sending off in that situation. We got lucky there.
     
  8. henriks tongue

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    I thought he played very well first half, decisively passing the ball forward, covering attacks.
    2nd half was a different story, when under pressure struggled, retreated far too far and too often - Miovski had him on toast for the goal - as commentator said, CCV doesn't allow that.
    Should have had red for 2nd booking too.

    Overall, I still think he will (eventually) be a good player for us.
     
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  9. Guchi Gucci Gold Member Gold Member

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    Think he will be fine for us.
     
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  10. Qué sera sera Gold Member Gold Member

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    I don't believe it was accidental, he knows EXACTLY where Bernie is, clenches his fist, stiffens his arm (no flailing forearm and hand as you would expect from crashing your elbow into something unexpectedly) and sharply jerks his elbow up and back, right into Bernies face.

    Slow that down and show it from the various camera angles that were available (as would have happened if one of our players done it) and your suddenly into the realms of 'violent conduct' and looking at a straight red......we don't get any alternative camera views or slow motion shots as it's quickly brushed over with a quick "unintentional" and "no malice" etc, and people swallow it. Nawrockis second offense was "unintentional" also, there was no "malice" in it as he (unlike the elbow guy) was genuinely trying to play the ball. He mistimed it and just about caught the guy, looked like definite contact but the guy went down screaming and pretending to be in agony despite hardly getting touched. But yes, you could argue that it deserved a yellow?!? But if you're going to make that argument then you have to be consistent in making those arguments, you can't dismiss deliberate foul play by elbowing someone as "an accident" whilst simultaneously asking a guy to be sent off for "accidentally" fouling someone.
     
  11. NomDePlum

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    Was more convinced it was deliberate before the replay. Fair enough if you see something different.
     
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  12. Lecs

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    I actually gave him credit, thought he came on against the huns and was pretty solid. Not an easy game to be flung into when you've barely kicked a ball.

    Missed most of the first half due to work today, he got done like a kipper at the goal.

    Just bizzare that we spent 8 million quid on two CBs, yet Liam Scales is first choice.
     
  13. Paradise88

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    He will come good. He's a year younger than Welsh.

    Stick with him and he'll be one of our top players in a few seasons

    Perhaps he's better settled with CCV. He was shaky after his booking. Fine before it.
     
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  14. AdamRS Gold Member Gold Member

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    I agree he needs a run of games beside Scales before we can properly judge him.
     
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  15. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    He was fine first half but then they didn't do anything of note really.

    I like him but it was an atomic 2nd half from him. Really shitebag-esque defending.

    The constant chopping and changing this season at CB isn't helping us.
     
  16. Qué sera sera Gold Member Gold Member

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    I wouldn't use "shitebag" to describe it, but he was indecisive and worryingly hesitant in the second half, athough I actually think Hart was to blame for a few of those moments ? Don't think it can be overstated how calamitous Joe is at times. That's not to take away from the decent saves he made right enough, I'm beyond the end of my tether with him, but he made some important stops yesterday and deserves credit for them....... Nawrocki is young, he should be given time and should (?) improve with the experience and confidence he'll surely acquire with playing regularly. Hart, I only see him getting worse and have been begging for an upgrade on him for the last 3 transfer windows at least.
     
  17. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    Strong and resilient but also naive, poor touch and lack of positional sense. The Aberdeen goal, he allowed Miovski to push him into the box before allowing him a shot. An experienced CB would have pushed him wide and allowed help to come in.
     
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    I really like him, bit taken aback by the overreaction towards him after the game yesterday TBH.

    Berna and Scales take a far larger chunk of the blame than him, it just looks bad for him because he’s had to cover those 2 and he’s the 1 that Miovski beats before the finish. Again, he’s on a yellow at that point which clearly alters his decision making because he’s naturally an aggressive defender.
     
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  19. Qué sera sera Gold Member Gold Member

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    I hear you, but he probably fancies his keeper to stop a a shot from distance and hoped to get a block in himself........ I think we need to give credit to the Aberdeen guy (Miofski ?) who actually moved the ball exceptionally well and manufactured the opening before striking a top class finish right in virtually off the post with power....... marginally less quality from him and there's multiple reasons that it doesn't end up in the back of the net..... but it's actually a brilliant bit of play from him and a fantastic finish. It's absolutely fine to look at the defence and goalkeeper, both could have done better. But sometimes you've got to accept that its actually a really good finish and look further back to see where the fault is....... Bernie sold the jerseys up the other end of the park, you could argue it was a bit unlucky and it's unfair to directly blame him for the goal, and I'd actually agree with that, he tried something to create an opening.... but it was such a poor quality pass and it left his side of the backline wide open. Once they launch it into the gaping hole there's still a ton of work to do, but Miofski does it to absolute perfection.

    One of those things.......... That we need to stop from happening. Three or four times Aberdeen played a hopeful long ball and had us scrambling about at the back struggling to prevent a goal. It's not good enough.
     
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    Basic defending is too delay until he has support. If he dives in 35 yards from goal and is beaten then Miovski had free run. The problem is Scales lack of pace ment he couldn't get back in quick enough to give him support and * knows where Johnston was
     
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