[Mafia] Mafia 10 - Revenge of the Mafia

I think it's a fair enough assumption to make, especially when you said you weren't going to be defending yourself, then come out defending yourself literally straight away. I get you can't let things lie, I would be the same in all honesty, but from what I can see at the moment - it's like an animal cornered, swinging claws trying to scratch anything in front of it

Like I say, my vote isn't final - I'll gladly rescind it if I think it's not concrete, but for now you seem the most likely candidate for Mafia.

 

good wee debate that , pity its only between three of you .

Your vote and then unvote for the deceased Jc Anton an hour or so before the deadline was dodgy and you have realised this, which lead to you pointing out your unvote before someone else noticed it.

good point , very dodgy Deebo .

 

This is just * tbh. That would be really bad mafia play by me, I'm not that stupid and I'd be a lot more careful than to post things like that.

Thats something we agree on anyway.

I didnt say that Larsson was mafia-ish. Now you are just making up lies. I said that players that blindly defend others can come across as mafia-ish. Larsson didnt do that, which I have since admitted. It was a general comment which I have tried to explain several times at this stage.

Again I explained this to Larsson as I knew he would still suspect me. If I was mafia, that would be a pretty weak move.

Finally!

 

@Deebo67

Like I say, I'm more than willing to rescind my vote against you if I feel it necessary.

Is there anything you can do to convince me?

I'd be gutted to lose another Town member. For all I know, Idioteque, Keano and Scotia could be mafia going on the offensive in a pack.

After all, the game is "revenge of the mafia" - so who's to say they aren't all coming right out the traps after two Town kills straight away.

 

Scotia - do you not think it would be a terrible mafia move to kill off Anton after me unvoting him, and then me to defend myself over it? Totally unnecessary and if I was mafia it would have been far easier for us to kill someone else and not have this kind of pressure on me. Keano tried to suggest that the majority of mafia could have overruled me. Why would they do that if they knew it would put me under pressure? Mafia dont want to lose any of their players.

Really would be a ridiculous reason to lynch me.

 

This post strikes me as odd. "JC is a big loss even as a townie"

That strikes me as meaning that you are mafia and that JC is a loss "even as a townie"

Vote Scotia

 

Read my posts carefully and decide if they come across as someone who is mafia.. I admit I was inconsistent in saying I wouldn't defend myself anymore but that was because I thought I was repeating myself and was getting a bit fed up.

As the posts were coming in from Keano, I grew more suspicious by the fact he was posting hypothetical situations where I was mafia, without actually voting for me. I think if he was town and thought I was mafia then he would have voted for me much earlier (I realise he has now but I didnt give him much choice). I then read over his posts from the beginning and he seems to be posting quite a bit about the game without actually committing to anything. I find that suspicious, as thats what I did myself as a mafia player.

Thats why I voted for Keano, it wasnt completely random.

 

I read that as he thinks Anton is a big loss despite the fact he doesnt have a role.

 

It's suspicious play, to me anyway.

Your unvote of Anton is the best lead we have at the moment - especially as you felt you needed to come out and say it rules you out of being Mafia as it would be plain stupid for you to kill Anton after unvoting him.

Larsson was the player in question.

You said it was very Mafiaish to blindly defend players at that point in the game.

You have taken back that comment after Larsson took exception to it and voted you. Although you say it was for other reasons.

 

I never said it ruled me out of being mafia, that would just be insulting everyone in here's intelligence as its not nearly enough evidence to rule me out. I made a point of mentioning it to Larsson as I knew he'd be suspecting me..

Sorry Keano but you're wrong. I haven't taken back the comment. I still think if someone blindly defends someone then it comes across as mafia-ish. Larsson wasn't doing that. I made the comment off the cuff and now I wish I had read Larssons posts before I did, because I can see exactly how it looks like I was trying to turn attention towards him. If I was mafia I wouldn't have explained myself to him as I know it looks weak, but as a town player I've felt I needed to to avoid confusion.

@Larsson93 Im interested to see how you've read this.

Keano points out your defending Che in three posts.

I read the post and make a comment on how that is generally mafiaish behaviour when someone blindly defends another player. I dont think I could have made that any clearer at this point.

But I then re read the thread and realise thats not what you were doing. If I was mafia I would go after you regardless, but I can see the confusion and am trying to explain how it happened.

Keano then uses the fact I've explained myself, and uses the fact I voted for Che (right after him) to put pressure on me...

 

Have to say the fact you came out with it so early saying it would be a bad mafia move is what makes me suspect you most.

It's easy to say now that you wanted to get it out of the way before someone else brought it up but it sounds like a pre arranged plan where you can just say no way a mafia player would put that pressure on themselves.

I'm reluctant to vote for you because at least you are adding discussion here, few posters are saying nothing at all.

What time is the deadline?

 

Began posting that before I got that alert by the way

 

My thinking was that youd still be suspecting me, so the post was to explain to you that I wasn't trying to set you up for a lynch (If I was mafia I really wouldnt go out of my way to be explaining this, I would have stuck to my guns)

The point I made about unvoting Anton was right at the end of my post and I just saw it as a point to add. It wasn't planned and it wasn't even the main point of my post. I just added it in as an extra point, like I said in my last post I know that everyone in this game isnt stupid enough to trust me based on the fact I unvoted Anton and then he died.

 

Just in so will catch up now.

 

I really do think Keano is mafia by the way. I would urge people to look at his posts carefully and if I am lynched then look even more carefully.

 

Have to say that fact Deboo didn't want to keep up a dispute with me(who I know is town) does make him less suspicious to me.

He could have easily went with the "why are you defending che" stuff for a while and would probably have got a few votes on me if he was mafia.

Still my number 1 target mainly because we havnt much to go on others tho.

 

Why did this jump out at you?

 

One thing in Deebo's defence that is slightly puzzling, I've been questioning him for the last 2/3 pages, and he hasn't once retaliated or accused me of trying to get him, nor has he accused me of being mafia - despite the neutral "grilling" I've been giving him over what he has posted.

For now, I'll unvote: Deebo67

Something about your posts still strike me as fairly odd, but I'll just watch now for the time being before I make up my mind, as simply we cannot afford to lose anymore this early on in the game.

 

Do tell?

 

I wish I was mate, or even a power role to investigate.

I am just a plain old vanilla town with a powerful vote.