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Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

Discussion in 'TC Media' started by Northerner, Feb 14, 2022.

Discuss Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power in the TC Media area at TalkCeltic.net.

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Liam Scales, Jul 24, 2022

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The most recent trailer is by far the best one so far. Looks a bit darker and more mature.

Still going in with pretty low expectations though.

Officer Doofy, Jul 24, 2022

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Northerner said: ↑

On Colonialism

"I know nothing about British or American imperialism in the Far East that does not fill me with regret and disgust." Tolkien —
1945 Letter

On apartheid

"I have the hatred of apartheid in my bones; and most of all I detest the segregation or separation of Language and Literature. I do not care which of them you think White."

Valedictory Address to the University of Oxford, reprinted in "The Monsters and the Critics" by Christopher Tolkien (2006), p.

"I have spent most of my life, since I was your age, studying Germanic matters (in the general sense that includes England and Scandinavia). There is a great deal more force (and truth) than ignorant people imagine in the ‘Germanic’ ideal. I was much attracted by it as an undergraduate (when Hitler was, I suppose, dabbling in paint, and had not heard of it), in reaction against the ‘Classics’. You have to understand the good in things, to detect the real evil. But no one ever calls on me to ‘broadcast’, or do a postscript! Yet I suppose I know better than most what is the truth about this ‘Nordic’ nonsense. Anyway, I have in this War a burning private grudge – which would probably make me a better soldier at 49 than I was at 22: against that ruddy little ignoramus Adolf Hitler (for the odd thing about demonic inspiration and impetus is that it in no way enhances the purely intellectual stature: it chiefly affects the mere will). Ruining, perverting, misapplying, and making for ever accursed, that noble northern spirit, a supreme contribution to Europe, which I have ever loved, and tried to present in its true light. Nowhere, incidentally, was it nobler than in England, nor more early sanctified and Christianized." …. (Letter No. 45, dated 9 June 1941)

1938 letter response to Nazis questioning him on whether he was Aryan or Jewish

"Dear Sirs,

Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject — which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.

Your enquiry is doubtless made in order to comply with the laws of your own country, but that this should be held to apply to the subjects of another state would be improper, even if it had (as it has not) any bearing whatsoever on the merits of my work or its sustainability for publication, of which you appear to have satisfied yourselves without reference to my Abstammung."
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Very interested to read this. I'd always been a bit uncomfortable with the notion that everything good in LOTR was white and everything bad was black.

Seems that wasn't the unconscious racism I thought it was.

Mr Cleansheets, Aug 1, 2022

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Not sure what to think of this so far. Feels like i'm watching Skyrim if it was a tv show.

Wllm, Sep 2, 2022

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I liked some of it, and hated some of it. There was quite a bit of cringe in the dialogue at times and the elves were annoyingly pompous.

Willing to give it a chance but it didn’t capture the magic of watching TFOTR. Tough act to follow.

Bob Loblaw, Sep 2, 2022

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Also a big negative is the soundtrack. It added so much to the trilogy

Bob Loblaw, Sep 2, 2022

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Only watched the first ep, but I'm definitely intrigued by this!

Fontaine, Sep 2, 2022

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Been OK 2nd episode too. The actor playing elrond was the young ned stark in game of thrones

vortex666, Sep 2, 2022

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El Capitan said: ↑

Also a big negative is the soundtrack. It added so much to the trilogy
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Have Tolkien estate to blame for that they didn’t want Jackson anywhere near it fair enough they were fine with shore for music but didn’t want it to be a continuation of the trilogies but were happy for it to be filmed in New Zealand it comes across as if they didn’t mind the style of the movies just dont like Jackson very much because the styles and backdrops are very similar to the movies

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littlekennie, Sep 2, 2022

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El Capitan said: ↑

I liked some of it, and hated some of it. There was quite a bit of cringe in the dialogue at times and the elves were annoyingly pompous.

Willing to give it a chance but it didn’t capture the magic of watching TFOTR. Tough act to follow.
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That bit of dialogue at the start of the 1st episode about why a stone sinks and not a paper boat
Wllm, Sep 3, 2022

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I have very low expectations for this... and sinking rapidly as I read the last few comments.

Mr Cleansheets, Sep 3, 2022

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Watched the first episode and enjoyed it.

Callum McGregor, Sep 3, 2022

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First episode was decent. Started losing concentration during it if I’m honest. Thought it had a very good start then started to drift.

All the stuff with Lenny Henry and his crew did nothing for me.

Officer Doofy, Sep 3, 2022

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Not watched it yet, but the thing that worries me going into this is the amount of stuff they're going to have to make up from scratch. Although it's based in Tolkien's world, outside of big events that happen in this time period there's not really much written in the way of fleshed out characters or narratives. Hopefully they can pull it off, I just have bad memories of the writing in game of thrones falling off a cliff after series 4/5 when they ran out of book material to copy from, and the hobbit films being mostly awful, so trying to keep my expectations as low as possible.

horseshoe, Sep 3, 2022

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Having watched the first episode it was much better than I expected after seeing the all the criticism its been getting online. Dodgy Irish accents aside I thought the dialogue was fitted the world just fine.
Early days but I'm intrigued.

Jamesy Bhoy 7, Sep 3, 2022

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Mmm....not sure at all. Hasn't grabbed my attention yet but it's early days

Wee Baldy, Sep 3, 2022

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Seems to get better by every episode

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littlekennie, Sep 10, 2022

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It’s been okay so far. Dragging it’s heels a bit.

Very few characters I actually care about at this point. Elendil is probably my favourite and he’s just shown up.

Officer Doofy, Sep 12, 2022

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Really enjoying it! These HUGE series always take time at the beginning to introduce characters and scenarios, but it's setting up Nicely.
Just wish I had waited until all the Episodes are out, Hate waiting the week for the next episode.

Moore, Sep 14, 2022

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Moore said: ↑

Really enjoying it! These HUGE series always take time at the beginning to introduce characters and scenarios, but it's setting up Nicely.
Just wish I had waited until all the Episodes are out, Hate waiting the week for the next episode.
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Bingo, Game of thrones was a pretty slow burner but it all pays dividends if the stories good. Just hope that it continues to pick up the pace and sets up a big finale for S1. Enjoying it so far though

Ghost_Jiggle, Sep 20, 2022

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