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Liam Scales

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  1. Liam Scales

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    I seen an article, and I can’t remember who it was but it’s a * I hate like Kenny Miller or similar sort of * making a point of we need to try and forget Ange just now.

    The ghost of him is still hanging over us, and I’m as guilty as everyone else at this, we compare it constantly this season to last but we tend to forget last year we were saying without CCV or Hatate we were poor. More times than not though, we had that available.

    And then Mooy, Abada, Jota etc as well.

    Really what it is there, Ralston thrives better with better players around and infront of him.

    Think him and Yang would be good together though btw. That off the shoulder run in behind that got Beck booked on Wed, Yang does that constantly. Ralston finds that ball inbetween LB and CB in behind an insane amount of times, 2/3 a game with Abada when both were on form. It goes largely unnoticed I think that unnoticed bit is what gets me and you going full on fanboy pointing * out to everyone more than we would if people weren’t sleeping on his ability as a player.

    All heart the bricky apparently. Top 5 passer in the team easily
     
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    See that just * me off. Did people forget about attacking football when Stein was no longer the manager?

    To me attacking football is Celtic, nothing simpler, just ask the Italians. So all Ange did was payback and elaborate, he did elaborate well though.

    Rodgers taking it backwards offends me as a supporter. If he was trying to maintain a similar standard and/or playing entertaining football then maybe OK. Rodgers almost minimses the potential of our players. No idea where his reputation of being a good coach comes from
     
  3. Liam Scales

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    Forgetting about what Ange would do or the differences when it gets compared to the peaks of Ange which was very, very high.

    Nowhere near the same as forget attacking football, it’s more when there’s something Ange wouldn’t do last year, we grumble and say well last year… even when it’s us doing something good.

    The players have done it a lot this year for me, they’ve took a long time to adapt between what they’ve been used to last year and year before to this season. But Rodgers has moved more towards what we were doing last year since 2nd half on Sunday, and he should keep doing that but it feels like Man Utd managers since Fergie turning round and seeing him in the stand like a ghoul, and being uncomparable to him. To a lesser degree obviously but Ange feels like a one off elite guy we had, like when Henrik left or better comparison probably Van Dijk, I always said to folk stop comparing, even others at their best won’t look good when you do.

    * I kept saying it bout Kyogo being compared to Henke last year. Even Celtic TV done it in a half time clip at one point. No fair on Kyogo that, and comparing anycunt with Ange is that for me. He’s right up there one of the best in the world at what he does, I’m desperate for him to get Liverpool after Klopp and proving it beyond doubt
     
  4. Liam Scales

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    Went on an Ange tangent there - BR being a good coach reputation has always been him taking over talented players under performing and getting them over performing, usually for about 2 years then they realise he’s full of * and the magic breaks at that point. But he’s been excellent all through his career at developing players, he made Calmac what he is, he made Armstrong something much greater than any of us thought he could be at that point, Christie as well… even Broony infact.


    Usually midfielders he’s really good with, we’ve had 2 this season get that classic Rodgers bounce as players - O’Riley and Scales. O’Riley was consistently linked for a Maddison replacement under Rodgers Leicester so that wasn’t a surprise, he had a plan for him already. Everyone else though? Were playing at their best already. And he hasn’t adapted to continuing that and kept trying to change it. And had a few wee digs start of the season as well, which didn’t help. Calling Ange’s team year before gung ho and he wants more control and less naivety. Backtracked immediately but that * doesnt help
     
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    Ange being compared to Stein (and to and extent, MON, Rodgers) made me laugh
    - Stein - has he built a dynasty that challenges the best in Europe
    - MON - has he rebuilt a dynasty that challenges in Scotland
    - Rodgers - has he won successive leagues/cups

    Not that all those things weren't possible for Ange - but more people acted like they weren't the criteria

    So when you say "they've took a long time to adapt" - that to me is a red flag for a coach/manager - that is not managing players - and thats what I have seen this season - but more worringly, basically to me Rodgers doesn't know what he wants to happen and isnt that bothered about how we play.
     
  6. Liam Scales

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    And WGS always being left out the comparisons after two Last 16’s that he got as well. I like for fun comparisons, would you rather an Agathe or Lustig sorta ones, but when it’s pining for nostalgia and nothing matches up to it then we need to let it go, at least at the business end of the year.

    Hypocrisy from me because I’ve been comparing like * all year, more off the pitch Ange than on it but also the on pitch stuff :56:


    But it’s a good point for me, he’s left, we need to move on. We’re still pining, most of us including me.

    You’re spot on with the red flag bit, BR’s been frighteningly amateurish for me at points this year. He’s been baffling at times. I think he’s finally turned a corner here though, if we revert to the style rest of the year at Tynecastle I’ll be done completely I think though.
     
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    Agree on WGS. I remember I was only a kid when he was finishing up here and was gutted we were getting rid of him. Consensus was he needed to be sacked.. why was he sacked?
     
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    That's not my argument, honestly, if we could get Ange back tomorrow. I'm sold. Don't care about the hypocrisy, best football ever, not happening though.

    My argument was more about bigging Ange up before his time, or saying he'd done more than others that had been before him.

    I just don't see why anyone can defend Rodgers this season. He's been so * and he had such a great starting position.
     
  9. Liam Scales

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    He wasn’t he said he was off about 4 months in advance but his last season, this may sound similar to you, he was 7 points clear going into January needing some key areas reinforced. We * about enquiring for a promising SPFL striker in Fletcher and got told to bolt

    panicked and bought Will Flood because we hadn’t backed the manager at all. Then we lost the 7 point gap and lost the league
     
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    that’s my point as well, we all know we can’t and he’s a one off for a guy of that quality, he’s the modern day management version of Lubo.

    I’m far from defending BR here, he’s got a lot more to do before I get to that point right now. But I’ll say we need to pause everything right now until the leagues done and dusted, and if we win it or not, we need to make sure our voices are heard about the concerns and rightful criticisms this season. I’m talking protesting outside Parkhead demanding better, regardless if we win or not. Because we shouldn’t have a question if we are winning or not, January was * unforgivable but right now isn’t the time to rail against the club in the middle of a title fight. Back the team, then we * need to make sure we’re heard
     
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    100%.

    There's no reason we shouldn't win this league despite BR. There never has been.

    Once we do the first thing that should happen is BR stands down and we move on. No way shoudl BR go beyond the first year
     
  12. Liam Scales

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    I’ve got others on my list to * off before Rodgers tbh, us paying £8m odds to pay him off is about as likely as him willingly walking away from an £8m payoff if he’s needing to go. So he’s here for the foreseeable, if he’s our man in that case, we need to put all our resources behind him.

    because as annoying and baffling as he’s been to me this year, he’s been left hung out to dry, he got an 8 point lead and dragged us through to January, we all sighed in relief expecting us to help him and we done * all.

    we panicked and signed Norwich’s 3rd choice, who * lucky as * for us, has rescued a title fight so far. And it was 100% a panic signing.
     
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    I'm actually hoping he gets injured, it's got to that stage. Not a bad injury obviously where he's proper hurt or career in jeopardy but injured enough to never play for us again.

    A * idiot of a boy who is thick as *. That daft penalty came from him heading a ball, that was going absolutely nowhere, into no man's land and then the ludge took it from there.

    His passing is mental, constantly puts us under pressure. Just seriously. Get to *.
     
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    Sick of the sight of him.
     
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    If Lagerbielke is fit, there's no reason not to start him in the cup at least.

    Scales has been rotten for a while now.
     
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    Another poor header in build up to the 2nd too.

    He's not good enough
     
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    He's * incredible mate. I'd love it if the Huns had a player like him, you'd be licking your lips going up against him, pretty much guaranteed a goal or a golden opportunity. He's just nowhere near good enough.

    Apart from putting his body on the line, there's literally not one aspect of his game that's good enough. None.
     
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    He's another Ralston, came in and done well for a short period when we had injuries but once others were back fit he should of been straight back out the team.

    I'd argue that even Welsh is a better player than him.
     
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    He was terrible today.
     
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    There's zero doubt that Welsh is better, of course he is. Scales will be Rodgers' biggest mistake this time around, he needs to drop him and now. He's * *.
     
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