1. Having trouble logging in by clicking the link at the top right of the page? Click here to be taken to the log in page.
    Dismiss Notice

Liam Henderson

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Kayal338, Jan 24, 2014.

Discuss Liam Henderson in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    62,676
    Likes Received:
    33,679
    You might be right but I just feel like we can't have two midfielders who are content with just passing it on. We need someone there to drive forward.

    A Joe Ledley type.
     
  2. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2012
    Messages:
    53,715
    Likes Received:
    41,320
    Location:
    West Lothian
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Larsson. Forever and always.
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Symphony
    He played really well, exciting to see him get a bit of game time.

    #RepresentingWestLothian
     
  3. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    Messages:
    14,785
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Ledley was the best since Lambert at timing those runs from deep, but still being in position to break up attacks. Was hoping Johansen would become that type, but he looks more comfortable higher up the park.

    If you're playing two holders, they have to link the team somehow. Through their running or through their passing. Think Bitton has the capability to move the ball quickly forward.
     
  4. Liam Scales

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2006
    Messages:
    82,312
    Likes Received:
    31,278
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Broony
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Celtic Symphony, YNWA, Grace
    How dare you forget Stan Petrov!?:52:
     
  5. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    62,676
    Likes Received:
    33,679
    I've said it before but Brown is just the big stumbling block.

    He has to be in the team because his drive and passion but in terms of pure technical ability, Henderson and Bitton are better players than him. Ideally you'd have they two in midfield - if Bitton mans up a bit.

    Sounds really harsh on Brown but that's what I believe.
     
  6. mickcfc91

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2008
    Messages:
    11,773
    Likes Received:
    2,353
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Current - Scott Brown .. All Time - Lubo n henrik
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Wiley Maley
    You can keep your Martin Odegaard and shuve it up yer arsee. Hendooooo ooooooo (emilio song)
     
  7. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    Messages:
    14,785
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Let me dig myself out of this here.

    Petrove either played in the 3-5-2 with Lennon and Lambert behind him, so he had great freedom to go forward.
    Or he played on the right of a 4-4-2 with Agathe pretty much covering the entire right side. He was always given great license to attack by the players who covered for him.

    Was only when he moved to Villa or played for his country he was primarily a defensive player.
     
  8. McChiellini..

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2012
    Messages:
    107,224
    Likes Received:
    82,358
    Location:
    Looking down on the mutants..
    Fav Celtic Song:
    For those who are in love.....
    No, just no..

    Seriously no..
     
  9. og1

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2009
    Messages:
    8,292
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Donegal
    Fav Celtic Player:
    McGeady
    Nobody in Scotland tracks runners like Scott Brown
     
  10. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2012
    Messages:
    53,715
    Likes Received:
    41,320
    Location:
    West Lothian
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Larsson. Forever and always.
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Symphony
    Henderson isn't a better player than Brown come on now mate, can't be making statements like that when he is 18 year old. Brown is the biggest influence on him out of the whole squad.
     
  11. Liam Scales

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2006
    Messages:
    82,312
    Likes Received:
    31,278
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Broony
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Celtic Symphony, YNWA, Grace
    Gordon Strachan's first season :icon_mrgreen:?
     
  12. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    Messages:
    14,785
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    It is harsh. He's better than a lot of people give him credit for. His passing can be rash, but he is generally quite calm in possession.

    The main thing about Brown is his presence, and how that affects the other players in the side. It almost always shows when he isn't there.
     
  13. Just Kieran Gold Member Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2008
    Messages:
    14,785
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    *. Fair enough :50:
     
  14. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    62,676
    Likes Received:
    33,679
    He is really important and that's why he can't be dropped. But again, I think it says something about the team that we struggle so much without him.

    We could be doing with more leaders in the team.
     
  15. ILoveTheCeltic

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    54,403
    Likes Received:
    10,477
    Location:
    Republic of Glesga
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Kieran Tierney
    I know what you mean.

    In a two in the middle you really need to decent passing and strong players - thats what gives you the best balance. Brown is more the energetic type of defensive player that works best in a 3 man midfield where he can roam more. He doesnt really fit into a 2 man midfield with the right balance.
     
  16. JamesM09

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2014
    Messages:
    11,971
    Likes Received:
    14,771
    I thought Henderson was outstanding tonight. He must've been gutted to get dropped this season when he played so well last season, but he's got his head down and improved himself. He made the right decision so many times and just looked so comfortable in his position .He could be a real star for us.

    McGregor should take note. He should be dropped from the first team now but told to get his head down and improve and he'll be back in.
     
  17. ILoveTheCeltic

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    54,403
    Likes Received:
    10,477
    Location:
    Republic of Glesga
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Kieran Tierney
    He does a good job but he is unsuited to a 2-man midfield, as is Johansen its why they can't play together.

    Brown, Kayal, D.Fletcher, Davids, Gattuso, Essien and those kind of energetic roaming types who can play as a defensive midfielder for me aren't ideal to play in the 2 sitting player roles in a 2-man centre midfield as the best balance is people with better passing ranges and who don't go out of position a lot so you remain a bit stable in there.

    In the two I think the ideal are well rounded but more solid defensive midfielders like Strootman, Matic, Keane, Petit, Schweinsteiger, Ambrosini, Cambiasso, Lambert, Ledley - they are smart in the role and good enough on the ball and would all work well with each other the best.

    When you have one player who sits more and one who likes to roam a bit too much it become unbalanced although can work ok. When you have two who like to roam about and close down like Brown/Kayal/Johansen you end up all over the place.

    We don't have the right balance and probably never will with Brown playing with 1 other in there because his style is more the one who plays in front of a defensive midfielder in a 3. Not that he doesn't play well and he generally now sits in midfield without roaming too much but his more natural game is to get about the pitch.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 5, 2015
  18. McChiellini..

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2012
    Messages:
    107,224
    Likes Received:
    82,358
    Location:
    Looking down on the mutants..
    Fav Celtic Song:
    For those who are in love.....
    I genuinely feel Henderson is a couple of levels above mcgregor and as he matures that gap will increase..

    Night and day for me, i don't think mcgregor is Celtic regular first team class whereas Henderson, for me is..
     
  19. JamesM09

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2014
    Messages:
    11,971
    Likes Received:
    14,771
    I agree, but I think McGregor has potential which may or may not be realised. I think the poor form he's on just now could be damaging. He needs a lower level of football to develop.
     
  20. McChiellini..

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2012
    Messages:
    107,224
    Likes Received:
    82,358
    Location:
    Looking down on the mutants..
    Fav Celtic Song:
    For those who are in love.....
    There is no doubt he's lacking in confidence, i'd loan him to a Dundee or something for the rest of the season..