Lennon Out

GM, my over the top reaction at the end was merely an exaggeration to illustrate the point, i don't actually speak like that or usually respond like that either.
As another pointed out i only had 10 players so that makes me look like a right numpty ( see what i did )
The other player that would play in my first formation would be stokes up front with hooper. So we agree on one point there.

The reason i have disregarded McGinn is because and it might just be me i do not rate him as a player that much. His goal ratio is ok this season but frankly i think it just clouds other negative factors. His final ball is poor, his decision making is also poor and provides little to no cover when played on the wing for the full back.

yes Browns position is actually a Box to Box player the only problem with that is that he doesn't have the technical ability to actually do that job, being able to join the attack grab a goal, or defend. So his use is his unlimited energy and harassing the opponent giving them no time on the ball.

As for my placement of Ledley and Maj in the wrong position is mainly because frankly i wasn't paying too much attention when placing them on the left or right, merely in the place on the park they should be playing.

Now what id like to ask you is the team and formation you would pick for the league this season including everything argued about and why.

 

Ill be honest, I am not 100% sure about a formation at all.

I think my back 5 is almost certain, with the only issue being if I would play Maj or Hooiveld, and the more I see of both of them I think Hooiveld is a better player, and I still can't remember us conceding a league goal with him in the team except Hearts where it was not his fault (Kilmarnock he was taken off injured, Inverness taken of to change formation). Although most people will argue with me on this point and I've gone over it a million times so I'll not bother again.

In my midfield, I think Id play Juarez and Ledley in the central positions. The reason for this is that I don't rate Wilson, so would play Cha at right back and, as he isnt the best defensivly Juarez is able to cover for him when he pushes up. He'd partner Ledley, who could do a similar function when Izzy pushes forward. Alternativly both players could provide cover for the CBs and can also get forward themselves, as unlike the last couple of season now we actually have CMs that can find the net.

Probably have a playmaker like Ki or Crosas (Ki based on current form) either between them or just behind them depending on play. Someone with the ability to thread through a pass to the players ahead of them, as too many times this season we've ended up having to sit passing th ball back to CB and goalkeepers which I personally think is dangerous and incredibly dull. Also, if the full backs both push forward and Ledely/Juarez cover it will mean that we could have 5 outfield players behind the ballif needed.

Upfront, I don't see how anyone can justify breaking up the Hooper/Stokes partnership. They are both capable of over 20 a season and are playing well together.


The reason I am not playing any wingers is that with Juarez and Ledley in the central positions both able to cover at full back we will be able to push either (or both) Cha and Izzy up, and I feel that against MOST teams pace isn't going to do it for us away from home, as players like McGinn & Forrest will end up with nowhere to run. However, I would play McCourt (on current form) or Maloney in a free role behind the front 2 where I feel that they are most effective. This would mean that if for whatever reason we needed to we could easily switch to a 4-4-2, 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1 without having to use any subs or, if needed bring on the pace and directness of Forrest/McGinn on the wings.


--------Forrster-----------
Cha--Rogne--Hooiveld--Izzy
--------Ki/Crosas----------
---Juarez-------Ledley-----
-----Maloney/McCourt-----
-----Stokes--Hooper-------


On the bench; (Assuming I'm allowed 8 as Ki, Rogne, Forrest, Twardzik and Keatings are all 21 or under?)


Zaluska

Majstorovic (Only CB over 21 we've got except Loovens whos no use)

Forrest/McGinn (great pace if change to 4-4-2/ 4-3-3, unsure who I'd have, think Forrest offers more going forward but McGinn is more atheletic and can fill in at RB if needed)

Crosas/Ki (Whoevers not playing)

Maloney/McCourt (See above)

Twardzik (Deserves a chance with first team after performances with youths last season and this and can play just about anywhere very well)

Murphy (Has been alot better than I though and has linked up well with Hooper when needed)

Keatings (Phenomenal return with youths, would like to see him get a run out if we take Hooper/Stokes off)

 

Larsson cost 650k

Moravcik 300k

Balde free.


Dont spend money, get poor players??? Very Flawed arguement.

If Messi was on a free, would you sign him, or would you rather leave him and spend money, coz you only get GOOD players by spending

 

Lennon has all the key attributes, the one thing he is lite on is experience, but its chicken and egg, we are not in teh market to go out and buy-in a season proessional, so we stick with Lennon and see it through....

 

I think he has to go.

His lack of experience has cost us in Europe already. Who the * goes 4-3-3 away from home, whilst trying to defend a 2 goal lead.

They way we have been playing recently has been *. We won 9-0, but we were * woeful until Hartley got sent off. Lennon has brought in enough players to make it HIS team, so he has got to take the blame if it doesnt work out

 

that was then the 650k and 300k this is now.... our back 4 have been poor for a number of years

or you could put it this way our cheap deals at the back have not worked out that well at all, izzy has been our best deal (even tho he has been caught out tracking back)

i think what he really ment was cause we only paid very little for our new players at the back they are not good enough

we never spent the money and thats his points we only spent 570k and thats what we are getting nothing really that good

 

Celtic are not an organised solid cohesive regular team, and Lennon has had more than ample time to do this, therein lies the team problem with Celtic, and its showing and WILL continue to show, unless he signs stars in January, and thats highly unlikely.

 

Lennon was a defensive minded player, yet the defence is his big problem. He needs to sort it out pronto. If we lose on 2nd Jan.......I cant see any way back for him

 

I have seen enough to confirm that he is a rookie and not some sort of amazing natural manager like Alex Ferguson. He is making a lot of rookie mistakes. However, I think its too late to sack him now. If he is out of touch come the window then yes there is nothing to lose and he can go. However, if we are still in touch come the window then it would be risky and a little unfair to sack him. It may be that new CHs and the return to fitness of our DMs will be enough. However, I think that Lenny is no sort of match to put up against Wattie and I feel that if we win it will likely be despite Lenny not because of him. Putting up a rookie against Wattie means our main hope to overcome that lies in money and player recruitment. We need to have better players the Rangers in all areas and a superior team by some margin because we are starting at a big disadvantage in terms of manager strength.

 

Whats this "Wattie"pish,* wattie the *,he,s a hun and as far as im concerned all i call him is one of many expletives,certainly not by his nickname!Where is it you go for your home games Gunt?
As for we dont have the team,total rubbish.They aren't jelling because they dont know what there doing week in week out.We have a superior squad just not a superior or decent management team,and when i say team i mean his pals.He should have chosen with his head when looking for back-room,but he chose with his heart and that was the biggest mistake he ever made!!

 

tbh the backroom staff ok may not have the exp but they are celtic through and through i would want people like that to fire them up, when celtic get beat/drop points im prity sure there hurting as much as the fans they wouldnt be there if the board didnt think they were good enough its not a case of jobs for the boys.

as for 'the greatest fans in the world' seems that we should call ourselfs 'biggest whiners in the world' its getting boreing now

 

It does not matter if you are celtic through and through and therein lies the problem, i made a huge speech about this in another thread about him picking his pals, i am celtic through and through does that make me good enough for a managerial position in lennons backroom team.

All apart from parker were very good celtic players, but as ive said before good players don't always make good managers, frankly johan doesn't seem to be doing a good job at all, our defence is woeful. Add to that really don't know what Thompson does in that backroom team. Its full of raw rookies whos only thing going for them is their apparent will to win at all costs and being celtic diehards.

Lennon's biggest mistake was his backroom staff, its just not got it. I don't want lennon out at this stage because its not going to do a lot of good, but one thing that can be done is to add some * experience to that management team. That person is Steve Clark, a record among assistant managers that cannot be equalled in terms of experience and who he has worked under. Its a no brainer frankly and Lennon needs to realise his mistake of hiring pals instead of seasoned pros who know how to get the job done.

Firing up a team is not enough, you need adequate tactical knowledge combined with this to make a good manager, at the moment Neil only has one.

 

Mark McGhee is available now lads.

The transfer window doesn't apply to managers.

We could have Lenny out and McGhee in within the week.

 

shame on everyone who wants him out. this is absolutely appalling. i am ashamed

 

Its Snow outside mate ,Not Coke.

 

* *....stupid stupid post

 

How can you say this??

Alex ferguson wasnt some phenomenom that won every game he managed in his early days. Have you seen his records? His first club he lost almost half the games his team played.

Lennon so far has won 82% of his games in his short period in charge. People who are writing lennon off need to have a long hard look at themeselves. Our team was always going to go through a rough patch at some point in the season and where are the fans when the team needs them? Calling for the managers head. Ridiculous

Lennon no doubt has made mistakes, but so has martin oneill, strachan, stein......but you dont throw them out and start again. The best teams are given time to build a relationship between the manager and the players.

Arsene Wenger, Alex ferguson, Rafa Benitez....

We have 3 first team players out at the moment IMO. Kayal, Forrest and Brown(Whether you rate him or not he makes a difference in this team).

If lennon sorts out the defence in January this league is ours and I have no doubt we have the squad to do it.

Get behind the team and dont change your mindset to these teams who look for one mistake and sack the manager and start over again and again getting nowhere! Have faith!

 

I was trying to make it exactly as smart as this thread.

 

we could have jose morinho get two draws and want him sacked its pathetic our football is better than strachan or mowbreys ever was we have progressed immensly from the mess mowbrey left us in and are a cb short of becoming a great side if we can keep players injury free.