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Lennon & Lawell

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Brendan Hughes, May 29, 2010.

Discuss Lennon & Lawell in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. alsybhoy

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    so whats yer problem? i did say on here too remember?:87:
     
  2. Rosleabhoy

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    Yeah, seen that. Not sure of the relevance of whats said on a forum though. I don't believe ANY manager at Celtic would have knocked back Keane at that time of the season given the goalscoring position.
     
  3. alsybhoy

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    well you do read a lot of things on the net dont you? so wether its true or not? is irelevent.but i do hope the manager makes the final choice on players as we have been discussing lawwell getting players in here to sell the jersey on the global scale.
     
  4. Rosleabhoy

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    Every revenue avenue has to be explored. The amount of games these players actually play shows you the manager picks the team....at least
     
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    every revenue avenue does need to be explored but we shouldn't be spending millions on players the manager simply doesn't want just to sell a few a shirts abroad. I really don't think Ki was signed by Mowbray
     
  6. Rosleabhoy

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    If it brings in more than the outlay then there is no issue. Im sure Lawell being a money man is aware of that.
     
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    the priority should be to sign players to improve the team and for the CEO to be concentrating on signing players the manager wants. Lawwell was out in Korea in negotiations and then held his unveiling out there. In the days he was out there he should have been back here spending £2.1 million on talented players who will improve our team
     
  8. Rosleabhoy

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    If it is a positive revenue opportunity then thats what he should be doing. If it brings in more than what is outlayed then great. That his job. The player may well play an important role once we have better quality in the squad as a whole
     
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    fair enough mate but i just feel his priority should have been in strengthening the side there and then. That's the important side of the Jan window - to improve your team for the final push in the season. Ki should have been a summer signing when there is more team available for Lawwell to strike up these kind of deals
     
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    neither do i mate tbh?
     
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    There are very few meaningful deals done in the january transfer window. No clubs let quality players leave at that time. WGS stated this when he didnt sign anyone. Mowbray was lucky to get Keane
     
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    i'm with you mate.......because of the blind loyalty we've given to the club down the years they know they can pish all over the top of us , because initially they know ther'll be a groan of disapproval and then the so called celtic mentality lets get behind the club no matter what cos they're wearing the club colours.....frankly it makes me sick to my stomach the way the fans have been treated.....we get "keep the faith" rolled out, we get "the best supporters in the world" rolled out....its all tosh. cos they know a celtic fan couldnt possibly accept being accused of not getting behind the club.
    to all those who turned their back on the club during the end to last season....i applaud you...the only way to get the club to take note is to hit them in the pocket.....maybe then we'll get the experienced manager most of us crave. i'll say again......lenny was a fantastic player for us.....but i wouldnt dare give him the reins of our club. i predict more ross county type results if he's appointed.
     
  13. Rosleabhoy

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    Its not actually the way to do it. The financial situation is holding scottish treams back and the fans hitting them too WONT help.
     
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    thats a decent post mate tbh! but to be fair to ki? he never really got the chance when he came and perhaps under lennon he may actually prove to be a very good aquisition for the club?
     
  15. Rosleabhoy

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    indeed. Time will tell.
     
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    i'm not writing Ki off but he was never going to fit in straight away. He should have been signed in the summer - if you are signing players in Jan then they need to be able to play straight away.
     
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    You can't gurantee anyone will fit in right away though.
     
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    What a lot of crap.

    What you're saying is that you want to harm the clubs ability to compete and fulfill their ambitions.

    Everyone have to chose what they wants to do with their own money. If you don't want to renew the season ticket, then fair play.
    But do NEVER pretend or lie to yourself saying that you doing Celtic Football Club a favour with turning the back to the club.

    Together with Martin O'Neill Gordon Strachan was one of the most succesful managers for a long time.
    Then we appointed one wrong manager, because we're trying to show ambitions, and now fans begun to turn their back to the club. Six month after we had the best January transferactivity I can remember as Celtic fan.

    The problem isn't the boards ambitions or competence.
    The biggest concern is the identity crisis the fans going through. It's a long time since Celtic fans was the best in the world. That have nothing to do with Mowbray, Peter Lawwell or the view of Lennon as manager. We have been in times with poor results and much lower standards of player than now, were the support was second to none.
     
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    100% agree.
     
  20. ChristianH

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    Let me quote Peter Lawwell from the first Q&A meeting;

    "The club is run such that every penny that comes in is reinvested"

    Simple logic; for every penny less that goes in the club box, there's a penny less to reinvest in the club. And money to invest in the club is the key to improve the club.

    First after accepting this fact, we can discuss how to use the money right. But that again comes down to whoever that becomes the next manager. Gordon Strachan and Tony Mowbray was two completely different type of managers who wanted completely different kind of players.

    IMO, the problem with the Mowbray season wasn't the ambitions, standard of footballers or the boards willingness to invest in players. That was the lacking of manager abilities in certain areas like the poor man motivation, picking of players with the wrong attitudes, defensive tactics and so on.
    That dosn't call for an apologise or resigning of directors. It's all about learning from mistakes, take it on the chain, and trying to pick the next manager right.
    I predict it's Neil Lennon because it's that kind of personality that a majority of the fans are screaming for. And the board actully gives a lot of what the fans wants. Because, yet again, the club is nothing without the fans.