Leigh Griffiths

Beat me to it..

I can't get my head round how people can't see this is just a dip in form, totally ignorant of what guidetti has been through and the game time he's been starved of because of it..

 

How many chances can he get though? 12 games since he last scored a goal that wasn't a penalty, especially as he's started about 9 of them is a lot of games to go without a goal - it's absolutley woeful and a disgrace. Really unheard of from a Celtic striker to get that much game time, especially mostly starting and not managing a goal.

Part of his poor play has been due to a lack of fitness too, for a while his touch was off and he was sluggish and too slow off the mark, Kris Commons like where he was losing the ball and possession due to not being able to move quick enough and he's unable to close down the opposition like Griffiths or Johansen which has become a big part of our game now, probably the main part closing down the opposition relentlessly.

 

But there can't really have been a dip in form, when there's been no form to begin with.

His best run of performances for Celtic so far havent even been average Commons, Stokes or McDonald level performances for me. He just hasn't been good enough for whatever reason and has lived on reputation and ability that he should at some point come good but the time hasn't come.

 

It's the knee-*, reactionary attitude of most fans these days. it's the reason why so many have been against Ronny whenever we went on a bad run. And then the same folk will laugh at the Premier League because of how they dismiss managers, turn on players, etc.

 

No form to begin with, * me..

 

It's not really knee-* though. It's opinion based on a long time of watching him, this isnt 2 or 3 terrible games, it's a long time of non performances.

Kneejerk is when a player is turned on or overly slagged after one or two games, it happens a lot to Stokes on here where he can have good long runs but a bad game or two and he's not good enough - if Stokes had the last 12-15 performances of Guidetti people would be queing up to kick his * in and transport him to another club lol

 

Goalscoring form maybe but he wasnt playing that well. Theres been periods when Stokes has scored for fun, infact Stokes himself scored 8 goals in his first 10 games for us.

If Guidetti played really well in his first 10-12 games, then his last 10-12 games could be called bad form. But given he only played average in the first 10-12 and has got worse, then theres no basis to expect him to play well because he's not managed to do it over quite a long time.

 

Goal scoring form, maybe? Nah, definitely..
As i said in the previous post, he was a shining light when we weren't full flowing, linking up, scoring all types of goals, with arrogance and swagger the fans (well most) immediately took to..

He might, like every player, have had an average game amongst his scoring run but overall he was more than doing the biz..

I have seen a quality player who has went through a tough spell, unsurprisingly after the lengths of time he's had out of football but at fir hill he showed just the right signs in attitude alone, that he's on his way back. If you don't rate him then that's your call but I can see a player with massive potential to give us much more than his good run earlier in the season and I back him any time to come good now..

 

Saying he's "pish" because of a poor run of form, or not acknowledging that he's obviously a better footballer than Griffiths is knee-*. Especially seeing the reasons most are given.

And a poor two months is not exactly that long for a strikers dry spell, some of the best strikers in the world have gone on poor form for several months and to all of sudden talk about them the way people have been talking about Guidetti, would be knee-* too.

 

He's not better than griffiths though. You have absolute no evidence that proves he's better than griffiths

 

You could predict he should be though.

Griffiths I think has a better shot/cross/pass on him, better work-rate and is obviously faster, id also say currently Griffiths is better in the air than him - he has a better jump and attacks high balls.

But Guidetti is stronger, has better ball control, more intelligence and better movement. He needs to develop more though, ne needs an extra yard of pace and better level of fitness, also needs to stop being a * bag in the air and attack the ball as hes big enough although sorting himself out will make him better at jumping currently hes probably too stiff and heavy to get a decent jump.

At the top level Guidetti's movement and intelligence would score more goals I think, as Griffiths relies on being quick and having a good shot to score but at the top level that doesnt count for much unless you can make the space and get into the positions to do it.

 

absolutely spot on . guidetti makes the most intelligent runs , has a proper centre forwards brain . it is evident every time he plays , even in glimpses. if people cant see that than they dont know what to look for . griffiths makes runs out wide and into the channels and has nowhere near the same level of guile as guidetti.

 

But remember at the same time, Griffiths is fitter, faster, harder-working, better in the air and scoring more goals.

Paddy McCourt was a really intelligent and technical player, superb dribbling skills and a great passer of the ball with a great touch. But without the fitness, pace, strength, work-rate or anything was basically nothing to us. Obviously Guidetti isnt as unfit, weak and that as McCourt but he still needs that in his game otherwise Griffiths will continue to be no1.

 

Mon a Griffy boy!!!

 

Efe is a walking *......griff is scoring goals.

Big difference.

 

Its not really,but we have to look at it case by case.
JG is not scoring and is off form,griff is doing well and getting goals(for now).

For some to then say well what about efe and denayer is just * stupid,Efe is a train crash and does not deserve to be in the team.

 

I had my doubts about the wee man but I am happy to say hes proved me wrong worked his way into the side scoring goals and most impressively his movement is top notch his ability to lose the defenders and get into space is a big plus for me.

 

Happy to see him do well, as long as he keeps the head he'll be a great player for us

 

Griffiths is an under rated player.