Leigh Griffiths

By the same token, if we get Bobby Lennox playing anywhere near his best, he’ll net 20+ goals in the SPFL easily


Some folk are forgetting about the crazy concept of ‘time’

 

Should've dumped him.
A manager who isn't a yes man wouldn't have entertained this. Our downsizing continues.

 

Hopefully first sign of attitude problems he's out. He's exceptionally lucky to have got another deal. I can live with it being a year but maybe not that bad to have him, Ajeti and an Edouard replacement to reduce the immediate term turnover of players.


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I don't know what that means. Griffiths is 30 years old.

I am dubious - I'm simply saying that, if he is motivated and playing at his best - he is capable of scoring freely in the SPFL.

 

Have you any proof of this? When Ange took over Brisbane Roar - he dumped about 10 players (including some very established ones). He took a lot of heat from press/fans but did it his way and it worked.

I don't buy into this 'Yes man" crap at all - he'll make his own decisions and stand or fall by them.

I'm sure he knows that, if we have another season like last, he'll be gone at the end of it. I doubt he's just come here to do the board's bidding and go back to Aussie in 12 months labelled a failure.

 

It's very simple, if the guy can stay focused and get some rhythm going, which he did at the start of 2020, he will score a lot of goals and set up a fair amount aswell.

We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving him this year, under a new setup and a good coach, with fresh ideas and some new players to bounce off.

As far as I can see there are those of us who want him to do well, and those who want him out the door to look for a replacement. Fair enough.

Then there are those who are so far up their own arses they will probably sit there trying not to be raging if/when he starts scoring goals and playing well. * pathetic if you ask me, folk who refuse to accept something that could be beneficial to them incase they get made to look like a *.

 

My point is, we have no idea if Griffiths’ best is good enough any more. We have no idea what his best is at this stage in his career, nor how many goals it might amount to.

It’s been 6 full years since he scored more than 20 league goals. That’s a * of a long time in football.

All these ‘if we can get him back to his best he guarantees us goals. Best goalscorer in Scotland on his day’ shouts are mental. His best in his prime and his best now are two very different things. His day has more than likely passed

 

Great to see the modernisation continue!

Griff and Ralston signed up for the season, just get Ntcham on an extended contract and Sviatchenko in then the treble and champions league is guaranteed.

 

Don't forget making sure we keep Christie!

 

I think this says more about you than anyone else.

Soon as the guy pulls on a Celtic shirt and takes to the field, everyone will be willing him on, desperate for him to score. Every single Celtic fan and supporter. To suggest otherwise is, strange to say the least.

Whether you agree that he should be given the chance to wear a Celtic shirt again is a different matter entirely.

 

I don’t mind if he’s only on 5k a week and needs to make the rest up with goal bonuses but he definitely does not deserve anything like 15k plus straight off the bat

 

Think we all know Griffiths doesn't deserve another chance after last season. I understand why Ange has decided to keep him on, the build is already big enough without looking for a replacement for him. We will probably play 4-3-3 & i expect Ange to sign another striker once Eddie goes which leaves him as 3rd choice.

 

I'm happy to see him stay. If he can get fit and stay focused, he is one of the best strikers we have had in years. He will score more goals in less minutes on the pitch than Eddy, but it's whether he can get fit that is the gamble.

 

What proof do you offer he has had any say in recruitment at all to this point? Or made any decisions to stand by?

Comparing him taking over us to Brisbane is pointless. We're not a pub team.
We also don't have a big enough squad to dump 10 players. Hence, the re-signing of a dire full back and a lost cause striker.

Right now as thing's stand, we are more likely to have a season like last than not. In fact, we are more likely to have a worse season. It might not be even 12 months before he's back in oz.

 

How many starts did he get each year of those almost 6 years though? And he was out for the best part of a season with his depression.

We're talking as if he's been starting 30+ games a season and failing to hit the mark with his goals. Almost as if he's a Darryl Murphy or a guy who has a good all round game but not enough goals.

Hes also played second fiddle to strikers like edouard and dembele.

*, even that wee * Morelos barely scored double figures this season and they * are talking as if he's Lewandowski.

I agree with Griffiths being a bam, a total * ned and an idiot. But folk are taking it a bit far with what he'll come back like. He's no Tyson Fury at 29 stone and two years out the ring. He's a month of * hard work away from being the most lethal striker in the country.

 

How many starts he’s had or the reasons for his absences are completely irrelevant. The fact is he hasn’t done it. He hasn’t played or performed at the top level consistently for 6 * years.

‘He’s a month away from being the most lethal striker in the country’ aye? Based on what? His form 5/6/7 years ago?


You’re right he’s no ‘two years out the ring’, it’s been six.

 

I genuinely dislike Griffiths as a person, he’s such a waste of his talent and I think he’s a * in general.

However, I do think this is a smart choice and the correct choice. He’s only going to cost us wages (probably less than he’s currently on), he’s proven at this level of fit and he has something to prove, especially with the Lennon comments, he has the opportunity to shut Lennon up or prove him right.

If he doesn’t step up he’s away to Aberdeen or Hibs on a fraction of his current salary.

If he gets his act together, we get a quality striker who can score goals for fun in Scotland. It’s a low risk move whilst the rebuild begins and the start of the new season just a few weeks away.

 

Sincerely starting to suspect some of our supporters are actually closet masochists.

They seem to have this desperation to see us in the worst possible nick, just harp on about it in threads, whilst fiddling with themselves.

Does some form of thought osmosis convince your brains that's it's rational to accept that our recruitment is a * shambles, yet it's a good idea to dump a natural goal scorer with no plan for a replacement for when Eddy leaves...if he leaves?

Seriously, how does that work?

Do you cry out "oh yes mistress, Celtic are *, we're * *!", tied to an ironing board with a extension cord whilst the wife batters you around the * cheeks with a frozen halibut.

This is a low risk, high reward scenario.

If, and it's a massive IF, Griff gets his act together, great. We all win.
If he doesn't, so what? The only one who will REALLY suffer is Griff himself. There's no transfer fee, his wages are highly unlikely to impact another signing, and if it works out... hurrah.

The new manager has a CL fixture in a matter of weeks. Eddy's future is in limbo. It would appear the club have not profiled any new recruits for the position. A striker who has been at the club for years is basically halfway out the door. What do you do?

Do you go with self belief and common sense? Toss the player a year extension and trust that you can get something out if him.

Naa, dump him. Watch him go to another spl side, and prepare your * for the backlash from supporters, when the penny drops that we've * all striker options and you let one walk out the door for free.

I've had 2 Celtic players in recent history that I * despise.
I mean I hate these guys with every fiber. Craig Gordon and Ryan Christie.
But like * would I want to see Christie go anywhere if it depleted the strength of the squad and left us in * street.

Too many on here are looking for a pound of flesh.They just don't realise it's their own flesh.

Now please, ffs... calm down.

This thread is * rabid.

Trust that big Ange believes he can get Griff back on the goal trail. If he can't, it's no skin of our teeth.

 

Generally players at this age will be looking for that one last big contract. Signing a one year deal even if it's on better money than he would get from other clubs in the league is a risk for him. When you consider he could prob have got a 3/4 year deal from Hibs or something and some security.

So in that respect he is backing himself to have a big season and earn another extension, which is positive.

But for me he's not taking that risk unless he's been told he's going to be in and around the first team and getting those regular opportunities.

I think for our club even an in form Griff should be 3/4 choice, meaning very limited opportunities. It concerns me we might be considering going forward with the strikers we currently have here even minus Eddy. Leaving us with Griff, Ajeti, Bayo? and Afolabi.