Kyogo Furuhashi

The next development in this team is so move on from the wee man imo. Been great for us but i think he’s anonymous at times when you need your centre forward to relieve a bit of pressure and win a foul.

 

There comes a point when others need to stop being blamed for his short comings. It’s nobody else’s fault that he failed to take that chance right at the start of the game, or that his touch all day (except for his disallowed goal) was absolutely stinking. Even when he was at his best under Ange he barely got involved in games but he was deadly when he did, now he hardly even looks threatening most of the time, and when he does get chances he misses more than he scores, and majority aren’t particularly hard chances either.

The problem is, Idah isn’t doing enough either.

 

Wants away and has done since the summer according to KDS

 

Doesn't fit Rodgers system and has showed no real desire to adapt, same with his national team.
Given his form/goal return over the past 18 months it's baffling why he continues to start games most weeks.

 

Not sure its about desire to adapt. He's lightning quick over 10 yards with top drawer movement and can score alot of goals when those skills are exploited.

But he has his limitations, hos link up isn't that great, he can't really take on a defender physically.

Not really sure how he can adapt to play too much different from what his strengths are

 

He's constantly looking to run in behind. We haven't played that style since Ange left. Rodgers attempted to get him to come short and link up but ditched it after a month bcoz Kyogo wasn't capable of doing it and he's shown no signs of improving upon that in the 15 months since.

He does have his qualities but they really don't suit us anymore and his goal return is pish

 

He has been missing a lot of good chances as well.

 

No harm mixing it up and giving him a few balls to run onto to. That one direct pass on Thursday that put him through was worth the entire rest of the games attempted build up play from the back.

 

i dont know what type of striker is gonna score goals with * all service , if kyogo was the problem simply putting idah on would solve everything but it doesnt .slow backwards sideways passing is the issue ,thats what * us up last season untill we ditched it and for some * up reason we have started it again .mcgregor has been awful for it maybe rodgers has instructed him to do that .no * we sign will score goals when it takes an age to get the ball to a winger to try and find a cross into a crowded box .

 

I wouldn't mind seeing us go 4231 sometimes and try kyogo as a number 10.

 

Constantly see this no service argument. Yet time and again Idah comes on the park and has matched kyogo's total touches within about 10 mins.

If he doesn't show for the ball that's his fault not the rest of the teams

 

Tried it last year for 2 or 3 games after Idah signed and didn't work mainly due to the fact that Kyogo isn't very good on the ball. Watching him trying to dribble by someone is embarrassing

 

i have never looked at total touches stats ,do these touches equate to goal scoring opportunities or are they touches in our own half ,clearing a corner etc ? if you are implying that chances are being created and kyogo isnt interested on getting on the end of them but idah is ,then that would result in more goals for idah ,thats not whats happening . both kyogo and idah are brilliant finishers and if the service was there they are well capable of sticking them away

 

Kyogo at his absolute peak hardly touched the ball. Halaand is the best example of a super elite striker who also rarely touches the ball. Some front men play like that.

Noone cares as long as they score. Problem is when they stop scoring it looks like they contribute nothing. If Kyogo wasn't a fraction offside against rangers we would be talking him up after that finish even if he did little else.

And Idah is used differently. He comes on to provide more of a target when required. He will undoubtedly have more touches. He rarely does anything with them, which is a different subject altogether!

 

Can’t cross the ball as a winger if you only try take your man on and cut inside. Must be frustrating as * as a striker

 

Kyogo misses far more than he puts away these days.

Look at both players goals/mins this season and under Rodgers overall...

This season
Kyogo goal every 166 mins
Idah goal every. 117 mins

Overall
Kyogo goal every 172 mins
Idah goal every. 103. Mins

Since Idah arrived hes scores 17 goals in 1747 mins, in that same time Kyogo has 18 goals in 2795 mins.

Football isn't measured on stats alone but it's not as if anyone can argue that outwith the stats Kyogo is performing particularly well anyway but going off the stats I find it baffling that Kyogo continually starts most weeks

 

Yeah and Haaland is good example and comparison. Kyogo under Ange and Haaland under pep are perfect strikers in perfect formation. The whole system is built up to create them chances within the penalty box.

The problem is Rodgers style is different, was plenty of debate on which system is better, particularly last season but regardless of that, Rodgers is the manager now and the system has changed and the role or the striker has changed along with it.

For me in the current team and system, Kyogo isn't doing enough.

Idah looks far more like a typical Rodgers striker, he talked him up big time last season, chaser him all summer, spent a then record fee on him and as iv detailer above his stats are better then kyogo's.

It * baffles me why he's not been given a run of starts

 

Couldn't that be because they have different styles of play?

Kyogo is very much dependant on service, Idah isn't.

Idah did * all in that game against the huns and if he had started he showed nothing to suggest that would've changed either.

 

So the service is there if they actually look for it?

Idah can't be judged on 30 mins/game. No striker is gonna be able to show their true ability coming on into games and trying to get up to speed while half the team are in 2nd gear or going thru the motions bcoz the game is usually won by then.

Give him 4 or 5 starts in a row then will judge him. And again it's not like the guy currently starting is doing so much more than him that it wouldn't be justifiable to give him a proper run in the team

 

it would be easy to sit and poke holes in your stats but whats the point , after spending £9m on a striker you would definitey expect to see a lot more of him if even to share the workload . idah aint gonna get on the end of crosses that aint coming in just the same as kyogo .i dont have the stats nor do i need them to prove that to be the case