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Kyogo Furuhashi

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  1. Ryanm1984

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    Different teams/styles. I don't remember dembele missing anywhere near the number of chances Kyogo missed.

    Probably no way to know now but if both their expected goals to goals scored where compared I reckon dembele would be way ahead.

    Someone like Hooper or dembele in this team would be hitting 40 a season easy
     
  2. moravcik1888

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    Strange how you dont mention Leigh Griffiths who scored 40 goals while playing for Ronny Deila (more than Dembele; Edouard or Kyogo)- you dont think he would score 40 for Ange?

     
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  3. Wllm Gold Member Gold Member

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    I was using Dembele as context to show Kyogo is not doing too shabby given he supposedly can't finish...25 goals in 53 games is a good return.

    He can be uncomposed at times for sure hence the sitters and the squandered chances in the CL. That's more down to mentality but if he couldn't finish he simply wouldn't be here.

    For what it's worth, I do think he (and GG) can be improved upon if we want to up things a level in Europe but domestically...he's going to keep banging them in. 4 or 5 years from now people will barely remember the sitters the same way no one remembers Dembele going through on goal and blasting his shot miles wide against Suduva.
     
  4. Idioteque I’ll laugh until my head comes off

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    2.4 shots per goal this season. Can’t really argue with that 237CACD0-7A17-48BF-B7D3-4AC2040C9347.png
     
  5. Ryanm1984

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    Aye mentioned him in a previous post this morning.

    Although Im not as sure even a prime Griffiths would be an Ange type player as much as the other 2. He would definitely score goals tho
     
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    It seems more like a mental thing more than anything else. As soon as Kyogo plays up a level it's almost as if the goals get smaller or keepers get bigger.
    Domestically he just looks so much more relaxed and composed. He just seems tense in european games.

    The thing about Dembele isn't just his ability. It was his arrogance/confidence/self belief call it what you want is what made him so special. He thrived on the bigger stage.

    It's not just about needing a goalscorer, Kyogo and GG have shown they are goalscorers. We need someone with the right mentality/self belief to perform at that level.
     
  7. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Leigh Griffiths wouldn’t even make the bench for an Ange team ffs:giggle1:

    He also couldn’t lace Kyogo’s boots.
     
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  8. FrankMcCallum

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    If Kyogo was ultra composed he would be playing for AC Milan or Chelsea. It’s that simple.

    We have this argument constantly and it’s the same every time. Players play at Celtic because they lack one or more key attributes that prevent them from being elite, and it’s our job to minimise those deficiencies as much as possible.

    If Boyata didn’t make mistakes, if Rogic was more athletic, if Forster was better with the ball at his feet, if Samaras was consistent, and so on and so forth.

    Same with every squad.
     
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    If he was playing like he was last season for us before injury, I think he'd be at the world cup right now..

    He hasn't been as at it as he's been when in full flow, like he was then. Still banged them in and been good at time's....just no as good as then..
     
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    Yeah that's fair enough but I don't remember us having this type of issue with a player.

    The defincies u mentioned happened in domestic football as much as in europe. Boyata made mistakes against St Johnstone, rogic was unathletic every week.

    We've had goalscorers before who were every bit as capable of scoring in europe as they were domestically.

    What I don't remember is us having as many chances in europe as we've had this year. So it's not like the players have struggled for chances they have just choked
     
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    This is pretty much it for me. It's about finding that player with the right mentality to do the business on the biggest stage. Not saying they have to be as good as Mudryk or anything...just someone that will be cool headed enough to not fluff their lines when we do create the chances.
     
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    Ok, not shooting it down, but on a mental state we need to remember that this is by far the pinnacle level that the Japanese lads have played at. Coupled with their slower starts to the season versus last year and it's not particularly unexpected that they're prescient of the task in hand.

    Dembele came from a championship/premiership setup where they were constantly being told they're the best, playing against the best, every week in every platform imaginable. Some swagger was to be expected.

    Hopefully, this season will pan out for Kyogo as the intensity of matches abates and he'll be much more relaxed about CL next year
     
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    No, Deila set up a whole system around Griffiths, Rogic was the only other player to hit double figures that season and he didn't get that in the league. Our current system isn't based purely on the striker scoring, its based on several players taking that responsibility. Griffiths only scored 1 in the UEFA group stage too. Even at his peak I'm not sure he would have been fit enough.
     
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    It's not about being ultra composed and the best finisher on earth.

    He's missing chances that you'd expect anyone to put away. Again yesterday. Probably into double figures now those kind of chances.

    I still really like him but he could be doing a lot more. He's not been great this season. Third striker definitely needed to keep both on their heels.
     
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    I also think the youth system really needs improved, we shouldn't have to go looking for a 3rd striker, we should be looking to promote youngsters to fill that gap. Both Kenny and Dawson were bought to develop, yet they look a million miles away from being in the reserves never mind the first team.

    The only way we can develop as a club is by better use of our youth system, if that's investment, recruitment or both we really should be utilising it more.
     
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    Rather than bringing in players from Premier league's youth, you'd be better finding some 18-21 year olds doing well in League 2 or even Conference. Cheap, room to improve and would be happy to be 3rd choice at Celtic and work their way in. Dawson was an odd one, didn't even play in league 2 for Rotherham.
     
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    It 100% needs urgent attention..
     
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    100% agree but with likes of mcmanus and odea there I wouldn't hold out much hope.

    Entire academy needs gutted
     
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    But he would eat all of Kyogo's tea cakes :biggrin:

    He would eat the whole team's tea cakes.
     
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    Japan’s compelling World Cup story has captured hearts and minds aplenty — but Kyogo Furuhashi believes that missing out being a part of it will only make him stronger.

    National team manager Hajime Moriyasu’s decision not to select the Celtic forward in his World Cup squad was a surprise in Scotland due to Kyogo’s goalscoring form domestically.



    Although Kyogo has already scored 10 times in just 13 Scottish Premiership matches this season, he hasn’t been able to replicate this on the international stage. Kyogo made his debut for Japan in November 2019 and has found the net just three times in 16 appearance since then.

    He didn’t score in any of his six games in Japan’s final round of World Cup qualification. He was unavailable due to injury for the last four games of the qualifying stage and, once fit, failed to find the net in a few recent friendlies.

    As a result, Kyogo’s snub was not quite as much of a shock in Japan and Moriyasu’s squad selection and approach to the tournament has paid off as the Samurai Blue have topped Group E with stirring wins over Germany and Spain, progressing to the knockout stage for the second World Cup in a row.

    Speaking before the tournament began, and reflecting on his omission and how he deals with such difficult moments, Kyogo says: “My family and friends have been very supportive.

    “Even though they’re not all here in Glasgow, they’ve been a huge support to me and I think a player with that experience can only get stronger.

    “I would like to develop further and I will also come out of this experience strengthened.”




    Kyogo’s Celtic colleague Reo Hatate was also left out by Moriyasu, whereas Daizen Maedawas picked and started Japan’s two victories over Germany and Spain.

    “I haven’t talked much to other Japanese players about the nomination this time,” Kyogo says. “I briefly congratulated Daizen Maeda and immediately focused on the next game with Celtic.

    “Either way, my motivation remains the same: I want to score as many goals as possible for my club and do my best so that our club wins games, and as many titles as possible. The World Cup would have been an extension of my way with our club.




    That’s why my ambition — whether with or without the national team — remains unchanged




    Kyogo’s Japan snub came despite the 27-year-old enjoying another successful season so far for Celtic.

    Since signing for the club from Vissel Kobe in July 2021, Kyogo has scored 31 goals in 53 appearances and has recently picked up an impactful habit of scoring early and late in games for Celtic.

    The opening goal in Celtic’s win over Motherwell on November 9 was the sixth occasion on which Kyogo had scored within the first 15 minutes of a league match this season.

    Just days earlier, against Dundee United, he had embodied Celtic’s never-say-die spirit under Ange Postecoglou by scoring the late buffer goal in a 4-2 victory.

    “As a team, we know exactly how we want to play,” he says.

    “Regardless of whether it’s in the first minute or in the 90th minute, we want to actively defend from the front, pressing on the opponent’s defensive line and attack the opposition player on the ball — like a pressing wave.

    “I also scored some late goals when I was at Vissel Kobe but I believe we create more chances here at Celtic, even at the end of the game.

    “During our attacking phase or at throw-ins, we don’t want to get into a resting mode — we stay in active mode and if we keep our intensity high, it will be difficult for our opponent to stay focused for 90 minutes.

    “Maybe this is why we’ve scored goals at the beginning of the game but also at the end of the game.”

    In addition to his goals, Celtic fans have also been enamoured by Kyogo’s pressing. He’s relentless, enacting Postecoglou’s game plan from the front of the team.

    The Athletic asked him if the Celtic manager’s instructions changed depending on the opponent or if the approach was open to Kyogo’s own interpretation.

    “In principle, our approach remains the same,” he explains.





    “I play as centre-forward and the tasks that we all get from our manager are clear. Regardless of what formation our opponent is playing in, we, as a team, want to actively dominate the game and work with high intensity with our pressing. Our attitude doesn’t change.”

    The basis of Kyogo’s goalscoring prowess is his off-the-ball movement. That late goal against Dundee United in early November resulted from Kyogo drifting in — unnoticed — from the edge of the box as Celtic took a corner.




    That skill was on show as Kyogo slipped between Dundee United’s markers and nimbly side-stepped team-mate Moritz Jenz while running at speed.




    Finally, with the opposition defence caught ball-watching, Kyogo headed home to lead Celtic to a dramatic 4-2 victory.




    Coach Uchino Tomoaki of Kokoku High School has said that Kyogo’s impressive off-the-ball actions were already evident in a childhood trial match at school. His ability to move quickly and smartly — so important to his prowess in front of the goal — were clear from a young age.

    “Back when I was a high-school player, I tried to find space on the pitch and made runs again and again in the space, but this was done more on instinct — or rather, I relied on my intuition,” says the Japan forward. “And for me, it was always important to believe in my team-mates, to trust them.”

    Tomoaki is just one of the influential figures that has helped shape Kyogo’s career, with iconic former Barcelona and Spain midfielder Andres Iniesta, his former team-mate at Vissel Kobe, one he cherishes in particular.

    “It meant a lot to me that he (Iniesta) told me that it’s okay if I just believe in myself — if I just play like I am and what I can,” says Kyogo.

    “Iniesta played the balls where I anticipated. If I believed that the ball might come here, then I sprinted down and the ball really did come there. He understood how I play and made sure that my qualities were even more evident on the pitch.



    Working with manager Takeshi Oki during my first year as a professional, back then at FC Gifu, was formative for me. He kept telling me to acquire knowledge, train consciously, and implement it unconsciously in the game.

    “It was important for me to pay attention to have good positioning on the pitch. Where should I stand so that my opponent has a hard time to play against me? To work on scanning the situation at all times. Or having a clean first touch to get an optimal finish.”

    Kyogo played in each of Celtic’s Champions League group-stage matches this season but didn’t manage to score. This was despite registering an expected goals (xG) total of 1.7.

    So has he been unfortunate?

    “Luck plays a role in scoring but it’s also about a little more accuracy and precision,” says Celtic’s No 8. “On the one hand, it is important that we have had these opportunities to score. On the other hand, I have to continue working on scoring to reach the next level in my development.”



    When asked about his knowledge of the expected goals (xG) statistic, Kyogo again leads the conversation towards working on his own efficiency.

    “At Vissel Kobe, we also had our data with xG but this was more team-wide and less individual,” he explains.

    “I’ve only been dealing with this individual xG since I’ve been here. xG is a good number to see if we could create goal chances or not. At the same time, it will also be important for me to be more likely to score goals from little chances.”

    Kyogo’s average xG per shot is 0.15 in Europe, whereas it is 0.27 in the Scottish Premiership.

    The difference in the quality of chances he is getting is even evident simply in the average distance from goal of his shots — 11.1 yards domestically and 14.3 yards in the Champions League.


    The six-yard box is an obvious danger zone for him domestically, but he didn’t manage one shot from there in the Champions League this season.

    The hope is that next season, with the experience gained from playing at the elite level under Postecoglou, Celtic will be able to create better opportunities against top European teams. However, Kyogo may have to deliver from lesser chances than he is used to. He’s certainly working on it.

    “For me, it is important to use every situation in the game from which to work on my finishing,” he says.

    “I’m trying to read and understand the situation accurately, and am working on my technique in a training moment which is similar to the game. How should I move to finish even faster, for example. I keep working on such points.

    “I watch videos on YouTube of how other players scored their goals, how they took the ball and solved the situation and so on. I also watch videos of my finishing to think about how I can play better.”

    It’s not uncommon for Japanese footballers, such as former Celtic man Shunsuke Nakamura, for example, to have lengthy careers.

    Kyogo, who typically came into the professional game later than counterparts from other countries due to Japan’s university football system, intends to take in a further two World Cup cycles.

    The Japan squad is one of the oldest on average at Qatar 2022 and includes eight players in their 30s. If that trend continues, it is possible that a veteran Kyogo, then in his early 30s himself, could be at the 2026 World Cup in North America alongside Hatate and Maeda.

    “First of all, I want to play until I’m 35 years old. After that, it will probably depend on how I feel,” he says.

    “I have not thought much about what I’m going to do after the end of my playing career but what I can say is that I want to contribute to society through my activities.”

    For now, Kyogo is showing his unchanged ambition by contributing so significantly for Celtic.
     
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