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Kris Commons

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Scarecrow, Apr 20, 2012.

Discuss Kris Commons in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. CelticBhoyDavid

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    The main thing that's starting to * me off about Commons is that every single time he even has a sniff of goal he has a shot. I mean why not look for the pass instead of taking on yet another 25 yarder and sclaffing it wide or high.
     
  2. pod

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    I would guess its because he has scored a few, assisted a few and had more shots than anyone in our team.

    He's also won us more free kicks that anyone else as well.
     
  3. Scotzbhoy

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    His performance today was one of the worst I can remember in a Celtic shirt. From anyone. On the rare occasions he actually made the right decisions and passed when he should have, shot when he should have, he * it up.
     
  4. oh bhoy

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    anyone can have a bad game and today was probably his worst for us but the management should have seen that and got him off
     
  5. Markybhoy

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    I said this weeks ago and got shot down for it. Commons has become a greedy player, he needs to get back to doing what he was doing when he first arrived here.
     
  6. Shane1888

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    He definitely needs to become more of a team player. It was good seeing him hit the long range shots in his first season, as he could actually score them then, but as someone noted in the match thread today, most of his efforts from long range go high and wide nowadays.
     
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    He was awful today. I honestly think if Commons hadn't played today we would have won. He did more to break up our attacks than any Inverness player. The surprising thing was - like against St. Johnstone - he played the full 90 minutes. Can't fathom it at all. It's so annoying because he was so good at the start of the season. I'm hoping it's just a bit of fatigue and he'll be dropped for a few weeks then find his form again.
     
  8. Doire_Bhoy

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    It will be interesting to see if Commons starts the next match.

    It must be crystal clear now that he needs rested at the very least. He just isn't very good at the moment.
     
  9. ILoveTheCeltic

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    He actually needs to be greedy for me, he must be frustrated at the total lack of anything happening on the park, to many players playing simple and hardly any support from midfield or full-back(except Lustig he done quite well and got forward a lot but Matthews is scared to come out his own half).
     
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    Probably the worst I have seen him play. I'm sure he'll be back to his best soon.
     
  11. faw cough Gold Member Gold Member

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    If Commons has the ball within 30 yards of goal,there is one thing i want him to do...Shoot.

    I would like to see him played just behind a front 2.
     
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    I wouldn`t mind seeing him in a front 3 and just let him do whatever the * he wants. I think our best football has with the 4-3-3 this season with the front doing a lot of rotating between them and no real defensiev duties. When everyone is fit:

    Stokes------Hooper------Commons

    I would like to see on Wednesday night

    Commons-----Watt------Lassad
     
  13. Hydrobhoy

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    Commons best position is inside left channel. He plays his best football when played there, but needs an attacking full back behind him to draw opponents away with there overlapping runs (ie izzy) and thus giving commons space and options to attack, the only way that would've been closely resembled yesterday is if izzy was playing or if lenny had switched Mathews with the more attacking lustig.
    Commons worst games for Celtic are always on the right side. To the point where fans start to question if he's even good enough for us etc. I for the life of me can't understand how Lenny can play him on the right side time after time. is it a punishment? or just a cowardly way to drop commons from the team? Is commons greed just to get back at lenny for playing him in this nightmare role? Who knows,

    strongest available 11 lenny that's all that the fans want.

    Hail Hail
     
  14. CelticBhoyDavid

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    I noticed it a while back as well but never really said anything. It's just becoming so obvious now that anytime he's seeing goal, he's having a go. Lenny should tell him to cut down on those chances, stop being greedy and wasting the opportunity and look for the pass a lot more. And they don't have to be defence splitting passes either - if the pass isn't on then don't take it and just keep it simple.

    I could only listen to the radio commentary in yesterday's match but the amount of times I heard the commentators saying about Commons taking a shot on or missing passes was unreal. He should have been the first one to be subbed from that game.

    But he is adding to nothing happening by wasting passes and shooting when he shouldn't be. If he kept it a bit more simple then things would get done. I know he's supposed to be one of our more creative players but that doesn't mean he has to go for the spectacular all the time and with him doing this more & more then he becomes very predictable.

    Sometimes less IS more.
     
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    I totally agree with the Commons on the left with Izzy behind him(thats when he is at his best) but to fit sammy in lennon moves commons out to the right.

    just as lennon does with matthews when Izzy is out the guy gets moved over to the left so Lustig can play on the right(then matthews ability starts to get questioned the same as commons) :31: :31:
     
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    hes been so poor of late and its spreading thro the team
     
  17. CelticBhoyDavid

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    Izzy is injured, Wilson was out through illness, so with Mulgrew playing in the center alongside Ambrose, who would you have put out at left back? Matthews done an amazing job out on the left against Barcelona so there shouldn't have been any reason to think that he wouldn't have been able to handle being in that same position against Inverness.

    If Commons needs (and plays better with) an attacking full back to draw people away from him, and Commons started on the right yesterday, well with the amount of times that Lustig was getting forward, why didn't Commons do better?

    What I heard from the Celtic commentators yesterday (viewing stream was * but could still hear them before it went down totally for me) was that Commons was roaming from the right, through the center and out left so it sounded like he had a free role anyway, but I don't think it would have mattered where he started because he played * - period.

    The way Commons has been playing recently there could have been an open net in yesterday's match and he would have still blazed the ball over the bar.
     
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    Commons was * yesterday but I felt for him because his first touch was (is) great and he had 3 people around him every time he touched the ball.
    He was balooning shots over the bar like it was fecking rugby but I'd still rather have that than this * boring sideways passing looking to walk the ball in the net like Arsenal and Barcelona.
     
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    I understand there was nobody else to play at left back yesterday and i don't rate mulgrew there anyway. How long has left back been a problem for us? even when Mark Wilson used to fill in there. This should have been sorted long ago.

    Im not exactly sure why commons plays better on the left maybe it is Izzy thats the difference as you say Lustig does over lap alot on the right(maybe Lustig does need a lot more help to defend from the winger than Izzy). But everybody can see he is a better player when on the left and is shifted to get Sammy in.
     
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    And it probably was sorted when we got a really good natural left back with Izzy. Plus that position was Mulgrew's natural position before Lennon starting playing him at central defence where it's been found that that is his better position.

    Matthews is more than able to fill in that position when needed as well.

    I just think that if he plays better when there is an overlapping fullback then he should have been playing much better when he started on the right because of Lustig getting forward a lot, especially if that dose create space for Commons.

    Like I say though, it doesn't matter where Commons plays at the moment as he is playing crap. If he were to opt for a pass more and just cut down on the amount of ridiculous 20 - 30 yard efforts any time he sees the goal then I think his play would be better.

    However if he starts on Wednesday against Hearts and scores a sublime screamer which kick-starts him to playing better again then I'll gladly take what I have said back :smiley-laughing002: