Ki

Ahah, so when Matthews loses possession, that's fine because 'that's football' but because Ki was little slow off the mark its cause he's lazy and everything's his fault.

Thread in a nutshell really.

 

how often is ki in that position but ? not watching his man daydreaming and not chasing back. he gives players around him a heavier workload not using this specific incident was proof but hes lazy. watching him off the ball i feel like running on the park and givin him a real boot up the *. hes far too timid.

matthews lost possession aye. how much running and tracking back does he do, he lost the ball fair enough but hes still brings alot more to the team than ki anyday. i dont know why people just cant accept ki isnt good enough. he can pass the ball.. so can commons but alot better and commons has a better shot and strength and pace. ki is a long way off first team football at celtic in my books, or alot of teams in the spl for that matter. harsh maybe but its true i care more about the teams performance than ki's feelings.

 

I watched Ki playing for South Korea in the World Cup last year(I think) and they played a 3 man central midfield with Ki in a deep lying playmaker role. He had a really good game that day. Perhaps Ki is one of these players who is just not suited to playing in a 4-4-2.

Scott Brown is another player who looks better in a 3 man central midfield than he does playing centre midfield in a 4-4-2. Some players just don't suit certain formations. That could be the case with Ki.

 

Aye because comments on the internet are going to affect him negatively...........

At the games, Ki doesn't get any more or any less stick than pretty much the whole of our team. Let's just say that he certainly doesn't take it as tight as Samaras did for years, and look at how he's turned it around. The Celtic support have got absolutely * all to do with Ki's many failings in a Celtic jersey.

 

You have no idea what he looks at, do you? No I didnt think so.

Many failings? One of the reasons I stopped taking you serious on this forum a long time ago was because you post nothing but tripe, all the time.

 

Artur Boruc #1 is probably the best poster on this forum, so that coming from you is certainly hysterical.

Saying that, I don't agree with his opinion of Ki, Idon't agree with yours either. Ki's ability lies in the middle ground between your opinions.

 

Posters opinions will always get divided attention, not sure i agree with you there Devlin but when posters interests are the same most of the time then you tend to like their posts more than others who you do not agree with.

I will say though the lengths some posters go to to fabricate myths about Ki verges on the ridiculous.

 

I don't necesseraly agree with that either mate, I don't reqlly agree with much that you post but I still think you are a good poster, it's the way people can explain and debate their points that count for me. People who can debate.

Annnnnd saying that, bottom part is spot on

 

Yes i do agree, the ability to debate rather than plunge into one line insults.

 

The goal was conceded because Ki lacks any kind of defensive awareness, sure Matthews lost the ball but anyone who knows the first thing about footbal would realize that players lose the ball all the time, its not an excuse for slack play from the midfield. Put Brown/Kayal/Ledley/Wanyama in the same positon Ki was in and we wouldn't have conceded.

 

Spot on, Some people on here turn the screw towards personal verbal attacks to try enhance their points.

Absolutely no need for half of the comments directed at some of our players.

 

think this gets it pretty right. maybe its the formation, maybe it isnt. but either way, im not so sure ki is particularly suited to the fast paced, physical game that is found in scotland.

no doubt he has technical ability, nobody becomes an established south korean internationalist by his age without it. but he doesnt have the work rate, determination or aggression to dominate a midfield in scotland on a week to week basis.

 

Very harsh indeed. I think Jack is one of the best posters on this site, and he is one of the first posters I like to read. Still, whatever floats your boat.

I don't know how you can say that with any authenticity, as the posters who criticize Ki, and I include myself in this category, don't fabricate myths about Ki, in fact I reckon it is the other way around, it is the posters who acclaim Ki that seem to propagate myths about him.

I think Ki's critics call it as they see it, and they are stating facts about his poor contribution overall to the side, and the fact we tend to lose points and Cups when Ki is in our midfield. I don't think the criticism is personal either, we all have waited patiently for Ki to blossom as a playmaker these past three years but sadly for his sake it has not materialised.And given that Ki has been paired with a multitude of other central midfielders and it still has not clicked for him, would lead me to suggest his problems lie closer to home.

 

ones a headless chicken who cant pass the other is a talented young player who won asian young player of the year and has put in more good performances this year than the captain

 

That is complete bollocks.

 

no reason to attack him, he is a good poster, also pot meet kettle

 

Agree. Especially with the bottom para. Hes just not good enough. He is a very average player for the spl. When he is in the team over all the team doesnt play as well.

 

ki is a better passer of the ball than commons first off, secondly ki is an offensive player, we knew this when we got him, instead of going out and buying talented foriegn players then complaining that they arent preforming a defensive role maybe we should change the way we play, the scottish style of football hasnt worked in decades, also matthews was at fault for that goal, not ki, brown was closer to the ball than ki and he didnt track back

 

how you believe that is beyond me

 

He isn't a more creative passer than Commons but he is a good possesion player.