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Ki Sung-Yueng

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by TAB, Apr 26, 2011.

Discuss Ki Sung-Yueng in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. mmmikey

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    Haha, well observed. :50:
     
  2. UncleHo

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    Deluded? I am not the supporter that comes on here, sings his praises one week then slates him off the next.

    Fickle to say the least and yes I agree players get both ends of the coin when deserved, however he gets an unwarrented amount of abuse considering his age/skills/nationality/performances.
     
  3. Artur Boruc #1

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    So we have to take his nationality into account when we're deciding whether to criticise him or not? What exactly has that got to do with anything?
     
  4. UncleHo

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    A lot? His nationality determines his culture and how far he has to travel when it comes to international matches.

    Also nationality plays a big bearing on the style of football too.

    Again, is he was Scottish or or * forbit Irish, with the talents he has he would be considered the best thing since sliced bread.
     
  5. Artur Boruc #1

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    Well I certainly never take into account nationality when shaping my opinions on players. What was it Willie Maley said again?

    Your second point is untrue - James Forrest has his critics, and Aiden McGeady was given some * awful abuse from his own supporters. Darren O'Dea is another one who is/was regularly slated by some of our supporters, big Stephen McManus another.........
     
  6. Twisty . Gold Member

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    If he was Scottish or Irish you wouldn't be on here making out he's the best thing since sliced bread.
     
  7. UncleHo

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    Why would I not?
     
  8. Twisty . Gold Member

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    C'mon , you know it's true. He's nothing special yet it seems to get on your nerves every time somebody has a bad word to say about him.

    How can you come out with ' if he was scottish or * forbid irish ' then deny your own reasons for favouring him ?

    Many Scottish and Irish players get unwarranted stick. It's * all to do with nationality. It's to do with the fact he goes missing too much and doesn't get stuck in enough. His style of play isn't suited to this league imo, would gladly take a few million for him and invest it in a good centre half.

    And I am not denying he has talent either, when he runs a game it can be great to watch but they are few and far between.
     
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  9. TAB

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    As am I, not just the talent he's currently got but you have to take into account his potential as well. The fact he makes the club money will be considered when a there's a bid too.

    Honestly hope Ki can prove his doubters wrong because he's a fantastic talent.
     
  10. UncleHo

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    You are aware I am Glaswegian right? Born and spent the most of my life in Glasgow supporting Celtic, so I have no affinity to Asian players or anything like that. Just to point out.

    I really do value talent. Thats all. I know probably a lot more about Ki compared to most on this forum because I read and see a lot of what he says about Celtic. Also I was aware of his talents before Celtic even looked at him. I follow the Korean league because its probably the best standard of football in Asia at the moment, actually comparable with a lot of the European leagues.

    It is not favoritism, maybe he just plays the style of football that I really like, and I don't buy the bullshit that he cannot play in scotland because for someone of his age he has put together some awesome performances.

    He is an exceptionally talented footballer with a huge potential commercial revenue income. I don't see why we would even consider selling someone like that, and if Lennon and Lawell even remotely think what I think, he will be around for quite a while yet.
     
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    So what did you mean by the Scottish or Irish comment ? Don't really understand why that would make a difference. You obviously do have an affinity to Asian players, same as any person who stays in any part of the world would, only natural for Swedes to want Swedes to do well, Americans to want Americans to do well etc.
     
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  12. UncleHo

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    Its common knowledge that Celtic fans are more paitent with the above mentioned nationalities, especially when its obvious they have talent.
     
  13. JML67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    completely agree. dont think people understand that you dont need to say a player is "the best thing since sliced bread" just to rate them highly. every player in our squad has faults/bad games but youve got to look at the raw talent and potential the player has. and ki is one talented footballer!!!
     
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    And as I said that'll be why McGeady was abused regularly, and comments on Forrest have been the antithesis of patience!
     
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    McGeadys attitude got him the majority of his negative comments.

    Forrest does not get anywhere near as much stick as Ki does. When Forrest has a bad game, he gets "just not ready" "not consistant" Ki gets "punt him" "he is *" "cash in now"
     
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    It's neither here nor there why McGeady got abuse, it was beyond a joke and some of the comments directed towards him either on here or at games were a disgrace.

    Look at one of Hammer's posts from the other day, he told us that Forrest had some * in the crowd calling him a "dirty orange *" ffs! That's a hundred times worse than folk on here wanting Ki to be sold, or criticising his performances.
     
  17. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    5 years ago, what is your point? Players are leaving the SPL for similar if not less money now than they were then due to the better standard of player throughout the entire league.

    Petrov was a proven international talent, the captain of his country and a consistent performer on the biggest stage.

    * me, thanks for that. :rolleyes:

    Difference being one is striker from before Ki was even born and the other is a centre midfielder from the same era of football. In fact when Petrov was sold there was no economic catastrophe on the horizon, to sell Ki for a higher fee would be the best piece of business Lawwell will ever do.
     
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    Well I can only speak about what I have heard and seen on here. I don't think abusing any player is right. I also rate both McGeady and Forrest very highly.

    I wonder how well Forrest would do in the South Korean league, living in Seoul.
     
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    i dont see why the high lighted should even come into this, he signed on the dotted line to play for us,his choice mate
     
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    Mc Geady had done well in Russia,you never know,if a team from Seoul was willing to pay him millions then who knows.