[Link] Ki Seung interesting Liverpool

Adam never got a start for the huns, and was sold for a tenth of the money Ki is being touted around for. It may be naive, but I am allowed to opine that Ki has more natural talent and more time to hone it.

Would you agree that the talents of an creative midfielder in the Ki/Adam mould would be exaggerated by playing a free role in such an attack-minded 4-3-3 with no defensive responsibility?

 

No, as Ki isnt the creative/ goalscoring threat that Adam is in that role. He doesnt shoot enough and his free kicks/ corners arent anywhere near the level of Adams. Alex Ferguson said Adams corner kicks alone were worth £10m. Not fair to compare him to Adam anyway. And you need to remember that Blackpool ultimately got relegated, probably because they gave Adam so much freedom.

Why has Ki more time to hone it? Do you mean at Celtic? I hope not. We havent won the title in 3 seasons now and I dont want us to be a club where players come in for two or three seasons to develop and then leave towards the end of their contract for free, or a small fee. We have a youth policy for that. If we are paying £2m for a player he should be contributing right away. Ki has done well, but the fact that he is not a regular means that we can do without him.

We're getting off the topic.Which is a possible transfer to Liverpool. Do you not agree that £5m for someone who is effectively a squad player would be good business?

If he stays, Im fine with that, as he is good back up. But if he goes, Im sure that would give Lennon valuable funds to bring in others. We still need a keeper, another strikers and poss another CB.

 

Ki is a center mid, playing him wide right is a crime as he wouldn't be able to have the impact on a game he has with his passing etc when he plays in his preferred position. Great player, great passer and a great shot. Has improved alot under Lenny and looks alot stronger and bigger than what he did under Mowbray. I'd love for him to stay.

 

Well he may rather sit on the bench for Liverpool than Celtic but he's better than some are making him out to be. He's not leaving, Lennon likes him.

 

id say ki is worth more than £5m so id say no it isnt.

 

The only reason Blackpool managed to make a decent go at survival was Adam.

 

Yeah...

But they didnt though, did they. Not really sure what your point is.

 

My point is that if they hadn't given Adam creative freedom they would have failed miserably.

 

Right.

But they failed. Your just speculating on how it happened.

What has this to do with Ki? You saying we should gamble the way Blackpool did??

 

well...

1) pre-asian cup, he was our best player.
2) he has vast technical ability
3) he has played well when he has had a run of games, at the beginning and end of the season
4) clubs are paying stupid amounts of money for players these days, andy carroll being 7 times better than an established 22 y/o internationalist? * off.

would i pay £5m for ki? probably not. but we should be selling him for £5m when you see very very average players going for larger amounts down south.

 

Your 100% right, but football and value dont go together. And when the EPL is involved, logic goes out the window.

 

Hammer i usually agree with you but thats just rubbish, why do people think he takes to long on the ball or looses possession? He is actually one of the best in our team at retaining possession so i fail to see how he loses the ball so often that people are supposedly seeing.

Each to their own but i find ledley completely underwhelming yet no doubt id get slated for that comment because for some reason people are fooled by ledley, he had a * first half of the season and fans just have seemed to completely forget that because he improved in the second half. Kemo you talk about proving his price tag but neither kayal nor Ledley have proved anything for me yet, they haven't proved over an entire season consistency, Kayal has played well for 4/5 months and so did ledley. People seem to automatically blame Ki for the poor results in november time but seem to completely forget ledley was also a part of that team.

None of the players in our team are actually worth 10 million pounds, yet relating to average players that go for large sums of money our talented players should not be let go for small amounts. Also on the topic of adam he is one of the most overrated players ive seen in the epl hype, he can yes sometimes pull of these amazing cross field passes(so can Ki and with more accuracy i might add), but 70% of the time if you actually look they don't come off, he has no tracking abilities, he is lazy and gets caught in possession far to often for wanting too much time on the ball.

 

We'd get the best out of Ki if we gave him creative freedom as an advanced playmaker. It's not really gambling. It was only a gamble for Blackpool because Adam gave away the ball so much, but he also contributed a lot with goals and assists.

 

I'll leave that for Lennon to decide then. I wouldnt want to gamble away a fourth title. Im pretty confident though that if Kayal and Ledley had been our CM pairing at the start of the season we would have won the title.

As an advanced playmaker Ki would be ineffective. Doesnt play the killer passes that people seem to think he does, and isnt the goal threat that is imagined.

 

How is it gambling?

He could be a goal threat if he didn't play so deep. He's got a great shot on him. And when he has got forward there have been times when he's managed to break the oppostion down, like in the last Hearts game of the season. He's got great intelligence and passing ability and he'd be a great advanced playmaker, with Kayal and/or Ledley sitting deeper.

 

every decision is a gamble.

 

Yeah, great shot. How many goals has he scored with it? I havent seen any more intelligence than Kayal or Ledley. I just havent seen anything to suggest he would be a great advanced playmaker (whatever that is). For that, he would need to be scoring 15/20 goals a season. And that just aint gonna happen.

As long as Kayal and Ledley are fit, he will be sub.

 

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Don't agree with anything you're saying.

 

And I dont agree with anything your saying. :icon_mrgreen:

Is that the sum total of goals you have from a player you say could play an advanced role? An attacking threat? A creater of chances??

Dont see it, and never will. Hope next season you can come on here and rip me a new one though and prove me wrong.

At the moment we arent going to agree so we will just disagree on this.

And leave it to Lennon to decide.

£5m and he will be off. Again that wont happen though.