[Link] Ki Seung interesting Liverpool

Fair enough. I just picked those two because they're screamers though. He's scored far more than that.

 

i liked his goal vs St Johnstone

 

nah, it was 4 this season, scored vs st johnstone and vs inverness...............i think lol

 

thats crap and thank * you dont make decisions for our team, Ki is better than Brown and I think when it comes to passing and work rate in the midfield he is better than commons , He always gets much more critisism than he is due and people ignore him if he suceeds, He had the highest pass completion rating of all our players this year and for almost half the season he was our best player, one of the big reasons he doesnt get playing time is that for some reason that deadweight brown keeps taking up a midfield spot, hope fully that wont happen next season

 

There is an argument that he is a better CM than Brown, but thats not Ki's problem. Kayal and Ledley are a better partnership in the centre of the park. Brown has got lucky as he has been played wide and done well. To compare him to Commons is ridiculous, I think you would go a long way to find someone that would prefer Ki in the side to Commons. And Ki cant play in his position either.

For almost half the season he was our best player? I dont agree. He had a spell before he went to the Asian Cup where he was our best player, but that was in a side that lost 9 pts in 5 games, so what does that tell us?. At the start of the season, Maloney and McCourt had spells as our best player, and after Xmas Commons, Ledley and Kayal were our best.

At the moment he is a squad player, like it or not, and if an offer approaching £5m came in, it would be snapped up.

4 goals. Right. And he should be played in an advanced position as a creative force?

 

remember that they 4 goals have come from playing a subdued role most of the time, he hasnt been allowed to play in a more advanced creative role, we can only speculate at how well he could do it, but i personally think he has the attributes.

 

In what way is it a subdued role. He is playing for a team that for the majority of games he plays in do nothing but attack. When he played alongside Ledley or Kayal, they have been the ones sitting.

He doesnt shoot enough, and he doesnt create enough chances. His good games have been few and far between. Lennon has seen that and thats why he doesnt start.

He has been here 18mths, surely the time for speculation is over? Ledley is more of a goal threat than Ki, and even Kayal has started to get forward now.

In our league, we get the majority of possession. Ki cant use the excuse of playing a subdued role. Its just inaccurate when most of our games are against teams with weaker players. Ledley , Kayal both have other aspects to their game, tackling, heading, work rate etc that Ki doesnt have.

 

No offer of so little money would be snapped up, the club rates him alot higher than that and they realize the promise he shows unlike many on here, * he is worth more than 5 million in Korean shirt sales and marketing alone, and he was oure best player before christmas hands down, and their is nor argument that he is a better CM than brown, he is a better CM than brown thats a fact and KI can actually play on the RM if given the chance, Brown just needs to go since he is one of the worst players on the team

 

At the 2-2 game at Ibrox brown got all the credit because of his goal and celebration but in reality for most of that game he was pretty normal, Ki was much better and bossed the midfield, he had something close to 95 passes and a 90% completion rate

 

Ki still plays a subdued role when playing next to Kayal or Ledley, clearly by instruction, cause it gives Willo, Commons and Izzy more insurance when going forward, its clearly subdued, he hasnt played beside kayal enough to really determine what his role would be, i think he would get forward more, but not too often, but with ledley, its deffo subdued, the reason being imo, is that ledley isnt as destructive to opposition attacks as kayal

with celtic it seems to be, the CM's sit a little, while the wing backs and wide men get forward to help the strikers, i thought that much was obvious?

of course either brown , ledley or ki make the occasional runn into the box, but not that often.

 

Worth more than £5m in shrt sales and marketing? Really? Your exaggerating mate. And yeah he was our best player just before Xmas, but not for half a season. And yes, he is a better CM than Brown. But he couldnt play wide midfield. Doesnt have the pace, aggresion or discipline. Thats why he hasnt been played there.

I would take the same offer for Brown, but thats not what the post is about.

 

He isn't worth 5 million in my opinion.

 

seen on facebook that there talking about a deal worth 10m, i would accept that definetly. as Hammer said, hes wont get a game when Brown, Ledley, Kayal and Commons are all in the team.

 

I know what your saying, but its not a subdued role. He is not explicitly told to sit. I also dont think he is capable of attacking in the way you suggest. He is a little one paced, and when he gets into shooting positions, he more often doesnt. Your right, the CM's do sit, but its not subdued, its a system that allows the wide men to attack. You are suggesting that he plays a Makalele role, which he doesnt.

 

If Liverpool want him they can pay £20million or * off. Not having these ridiculous double standards because the other players they've bought are English.

 

not really, Celtic merchandise has been selling in South Korea like crazy since he signed for us all Celtic games are now shown on TV there, obviously he isnt worth 5 million a year but overall since he has signed for us we have made more than 5 million from his celebrity status there, add on top of that that he is one of our most promising players then it makes no since to sell him, and he can actaully play on the wing as he played there for FC Seoul and is actually quite fast

 

That would be great but I dont believe he has made as much in shirts and merchandise as suggested.

He has been a promising player since he came here, with other than the odd burst, not a great deal to show for it. I dont think there is a chance in * he will play on the wing for us. Looks very pedestrian at times, regardless of where he plays for Korea.

The facts are, he is behind Kayal and Ledley, and I think if we got a decent offer for a player who is effectively a squad player, we should take it.

If he doesnt go, then great!!!! But lets be sensible here. Talk of £10m and £20m is nuts.

 

when i say subdued as a CM i mean keeping it simple, which him and ledley both doin a celtic shirt, i think Ki could do more than that tbh, but he keeps the play ticking like ledley, i agree he should shoot more often, but imo, the Makelele role is occupied by a DMC, which we dont play, soo, sorry i didnt explain that better

 

i think we could reasonably expect in an inflated market maybe 6-8 million at most for Ki, thats about it

but then i'm not for flogging off all our young talent

i think ki's a good player, just needs to be more more consistent as otherwise he's got all the tools; good shot, great passing ability and doesn't mind putting a challenge in even though most them tend to be borderline leg breakers an red cards