JOHN REID

Well you must've been under a rock......
BBC NEWS | UK | 'Million' march against Iraq war

It was only considered by some people to be "the right thing to do",because of the lies told by people like John Reid,Tony Blair and George W Bush.
Don't dare tell me that I'm responsible for the slaughter that ensued there,or anyone else for that matter.

 

Going off topic here guys. This isn't about worldwide politics. I don't particularly care for John Reid because of his stance during the fire service strike but that's neither here nor there in the context of this thread. Whilst I don't like the man I acknowledge that he's a very clever and articulate man and I trust him to fight our corner. He has since coming to us acted in the best interests of our club. Who better to fight terrorism, that's what Lenny has been facing, than a former defence minister. He knows the ways of the Government and political polices........* Lenny is probably only getting the security service protection because he's intervened and knows the wherefors and whyfors. Time for us all to stick together here and if that means unlikely bedfellows so be it.

 

lets forget about the iraq war for a minute here. their is no chairman id rather have than john reid at the present moment. i say this purely and simply because who better to fight a political/religous war than a huge political figure? he wont be beaten in any debate, he has strength of character in abundance and he is a celtic man so he isnt in it purely for the wage packet.

i had this argument with my mate who said "aye but i dont want a war criminal in control of our club" im sorry people but it doesnt matter what your opinion is; John Reid led a UN backed invasion into Iraq. he no more a war criminal than you or I

 

Wrong.
"It doesn't matter what your opinion is"......Yeah,that's exactly the attitude that got us there in the 1st place .

 

Unity is strength. Stand together, stand tall and we'll see them off.

Mon the hoops

 

when it comes to stuff such as war crimes opinions dont matter. if john reid was a war criminal he'd be standing trial in the hague not holding down a job with a club like celtic. like it or lump it mate john reid done nothing illegal by authorising the invasion of iraq. the ethical/moral implications of it i wont get into (i myself dont believe either war was necessary) but he followed UN protocol based on the best inteligence availbable at the time. again i wont go into the validity of the inteligence, as we all know it has been called into question since, but based on the information he had available at the time i dont see where John Reid can possibly be portrayed as a war criminal and i also dont see why it is our fans calling him this and not the UN, EU, NATO, Amnesty International etc

 

The man has blood on his hands, as you can tell I'm not a fan at all.

However I think we should leave all this divisive chat about our chairman well alone for the now because now is the time where we all have to unite in our support for our manager, our players and our club if we are to fend off and defeat the vermin.

 

The war was illegal.The leader of the UN Kofi Annan said it was illegal.They had no UN backing.The whole World could see the war for what it really was.Idiotic morons like Reid never listened.I hate the man.He's complicit in the slaughter of a whole people,no better than Saddam was.
He's a disgrace and I resent the fact he has anything to do with our club.

 

Do you have statistics to back this up? It may not be millions but it is certainly approaching this figure. Civilian deaths are over a 100,000 alone, as best we know. The true figure may well never be known.

Very hard to get proper stats from government and we know that papers make * up.

Also been an ungodly amount of our very own countrymen and that of others died in this * conflict.

He has a lot of bad * on his conscience.

 

The link reference suggest that less than 1% of the British population objected to the planned invasion of Iraq, if you were part of that 1% then my comment doesn't apply to you.
Was it preferable to leave Saddam to continue the slaughter of millions of his own people or bring it to an end.
I do not support the action taken either but equally I don't think Reid stands alone with blood on his hands, the vast majority of brits should also feel the guilt.

 

I'd say it's because most people in this country are too lazy to attend anything,or simply don't care about important issues,such as the country going to war.
I and everyone else heard and saw alot more opposition to the war than people for it.
As far as I'm aware,more Iraqis have died because of sanctions imposed along with the invasion of Iraq,than Saddam killed.So maybe,we should've left him although maybe we shouldn't have helped him get there in the first place.
Men like Reid and co as I have said lied to the country,if there ever was support for the war,it was gained through lies and fear tactics,Reid imo is a war criminal,just as Saddam was,and hopefully one day will be up infront of a court.

 

Dont really care about foreign policy when it comes to politics. Just doesnt interest me. However, that said, I think Reid is a repellant character. I met him about 20-odd years ago in a Labour Party meeting. He was a * then who was only interested in getting in power and didnt seem to mind his * party slowly morphing into diet tories.

 

There's not a successful man or woman on this earth that didn't * on a lot of people on the way up........that's life. If this man has Celtic at heart we wont go far wrong. I would rather have someone who's driven to succeed, show passion and fight (not unlike our Lenny) for the club than have Martin Bain.

 

Just reading the thread and believe we should remember that Dr Reid has huge political experience and clout but this current situation pales into absolute insignificance when we talk about War and the death of thousands.

He's doesn't work for the Government now he is Chairman of Celtic Football Club and he is the best man to fight the clubs corner and finally get an even playing field for the club.

The establishment know that when dealing with Reid and Lawell they will be no pushovers and I really believe this whole issue needed to be brought to the fore and with Lenny delivering a footballing side that mirrors his passion, the club with Reid at his head will make sure that Celtic will be treated fairly by the SFA, Scottish Parliament and media. Can't think of anyone better to be at the clubs helm during this latest analysis of the sectarian problems caused in the main, by bitter anti-catholic/celtic, sentiment that runs deep in Scottish society.

 

Quite simply his tenure as Chairman is a shameful episode in our history. We cannot brush under the carpet the utterly horrendous things this man has been involved in. The hypocrisy he has shown is astounding and makes me question anything he ever says. He is not fit to be Chairperson of the Club I love.