John Kennedy

Honestly I don’t know why people still assume a coach and a manager is pretty much the same job. It’s not. Look at Maloney, guys like Kev De Bruyne think highly of him as a coach, Hibs players last year raved about him as a coach. Was he a good manager for them? Absolutely not.

So because it’s a different time, we shouldn’t be happy with guys being loyal towards the club? * that.

 

Maloney showed ambition however of going into coaching and wanting to be his own guy whilst he learns and develops.

There is a difference in mindset.

You look at a lot of the coaches throughout the game they all started somewhere and then went to manage clubs themselves. Whether they are successful is a different thing entirely.

There is a ton of managers out there now who were all coaches before hand....how else do they build experience and then go that step up.

Again maybe I'm being overly harsh on Kennedy, but at least guys like McGrain actually went out and done the job outside of the club before coming back.

And I know I will be done for it but our defensive game since he's been here bar the obvious invincible season has been a known issue that has hardly improved...I know a lot of that is down to managers styles but he's been here long enough now to have seen it under different guys and seen the issues reoccur and again nothing is changing.

 

* me here we go again.

Kennedys fan club out in force chatting about how the players love him.

Guy should've been given his marching orders with Deila and Collins.

Guy has been a millstone around the neck of our coaching staff for 4 different regimes.

Theres a reason why Rodgers left him behind.

Theres a reason why he had 10 games in charge to prove he offers anything of value and bottled it spectacularly.

10 games or no, theres a reason he has the worst managerial stats in our history, with the exception of the disaster that was Macari.

Theres a reason why in 10 games he fluffed 6 of them.

Theres a reason why Graham * Murtys stats as a caretaker are laughably 15% higher.

Theres a reason why Kewell was brought in.

Players love him aye? Pity they didn't show it on the pitch.

Guys a chancer.

 

I'm all for rewarding loyalty.

But that also involves the expectation that the reward is given because what they offer is tangible and is seen in the results of the game.

Having Ajer come out and say he's a legend is one thing, it being suggested that players and managers alike all rate him is great.

Makes him sound like a nice lad...a good guy...but where do good guys get in football when dealing with a group of egos at any level of the game, especially in pressurised environments like that at Celtic?

 

What a load of *.

1. If he was a millstone he wouldn't have lasted the 4 regimes. You think Ange would have kept him around if he wasn't valuable?

2. There was reports of Rodgers wanting to take him but JK opting to stay.

3. He's currently a coach so who the * cares if he has a * record in what was a disaster of a season, has no bearing on his current role

4. Kewell was clearly brought in as an attacking coach which is something we were missing. Notice it was McManus that moved to the B team and not Kennedy,

5. We won 7 out of 8 titles with him on board so the last point is more bullshit

 

The kitchen is not big enough for Ange, Kewell and Kennedy.
I think the writing is on the wall for Kennedy, and he knows it.

 

Based on what exactly?

 

We need to get a bigger kitchen.

 

What a load of counter *.

1. Hes lasted 4 regimes at the behest of the board, as alluded to by Ange, as confirmed by Howe knocking back the job and also confirmed by Rodgers when he took the job. Keeping kennedy in play on the coaching staff has been requisite since Keane knocked back the job after it was revealed HE would have to take on Deila as HIS number 2. This surely isnt news to you is it?

2. Reports aye? Funny how these reports are BS 99 percent of the time but accurate when they fit your narrative.

3. A coach has no bearing on a role as manager, or vice versa? Are you actually inferring that Kennedys caretaker role isnt / wasnt reflective or indicative of his abilities as a coach? Ffs. Im not even gonna attempt to tackle that logic.

4. McManus isnt the number * two. You think Ange is really that callous to dump his assistant manager down to the Bs? Really? Again, dumping Kennedy publicly down to the Bs is a pr disaster. But aye, you keep telling yourself that Kewell has been brought in to succeed McManus.

5. We lost 10 in a row. End of. AND, given your third, hilarious point that coaching and management are entirely different roles, he would then have had * all to do with those titles, as per your logic.

Ta ta

 

There is no way 4 managers would have kept Kennedy if they didn't rate him. If you don't believe that then idk what to say.

Aye reports, it'd be a weird as * thing ti make up.

Kennedys tenure as manager has no bearing on his current role. I didnt say coaching ability and managerial ability are unrelated but thanks for putting words in my mouth. Kennedy took over a mess of a team, a mess he was part of for that particular season but a mess all the same. I'm not going to judge his ability as a coach in those 10 games. After 7 league games we'd won 3 under Ange. It's naive to judge so quick.

Well obviously I don't think he'd drop Kennedy to the Bs since Kennedy is clearly a valuable member if his backroom team. Kewell has been brought in to add, not replace. Why is that so difficult to grasp?

Again your last point is bullshit, based in completely putting words in my mouth. You can't just disregard the other 7 seasons because we lost one ya balloon.

 

Loaded question ?
Anyways.
Celtic have not brought in Harry Kewell just to stand still.
He's Ange's man, and like it or not, it is a nudge and wink to John Kennedy that he should really start considering his position, I know that is how I would feel in his position.
Kennedy is not universally liked by the majority of Celtic fans,
many polls have indicated that in different Celtic forums and venues.
Kennedy for being a defensive coach has done a poor job
over the last decade. How many goals have Celtic lost from set pieces
over the years, and are still losing, What say you ?.
How many Celtic centre backs have looked suspect and
ill at ease under his defensive coaching over the last decade ?
Kennedy did a dreadful job as acting manager after Lennon's resignation.
Kennedy if he had any ambition at all, would have sought
to make his mark elsewhere, after all his years at the club
under different coaches.
Maybe Ange has sussed Kennedy out ?
Make your own deductions. It's not hard to see.
Well you did ask

 

Of his own accord.

 

As poorly as they had all season. As stated, manager and coach isn't the same job. And by the point Lennon had left, all hope for the season had disappeared.

 

This is nothing more than speculation.

And?

He's not 'the defensive coach'.

Jock Stein himself would have struggle to motivate the players at the end of that season. Some people are just happy in their jobs and from the evidence in front of us, he's good at his job.

 

I'd rather keep him, but if he wants to progress in his managerial career, Midjytlland would be a fantastic move.

 

There are a ton of managers that were coaches. There is also a ton of coaches who are coaches.

Aye the defence he was getting blamed for even when Kolo Toure was a specific ‘defensive coach’ we had here

Some * just need to admit despite the evidence we have of the guys who’s worked with him, about 4 different managers who’s praised him, that they just don’t like him regardless.


It’s weird logic, would you be unhappy with Matt O’Riley knocking back Leicester this summer if a bid comes in or would you dislike him for the lack of ambition?

 

Kennedy is a greeting faced *.
Is that not enough to not like him ?

 

And that’s what it boils down to for a load of people, they don’t want a good coach here because they for some reason don’t like him.

 

Well going alone by the poll on here, not many like Kennedy on this forum.

 

How popular he is, is irrelevant.