John Kennedy

I loved his football, his teams scored a * of a lot of goals, so we’ll need to agree to disagree there.

He got into the CL twice, once through to the last 16. Getting into the CL isn’t a failure.

 

Yep. As well as keeping the loan guy's in for no real reason and having no change to us really. Was painful..

It just looked like a guy trying to play everything safe. No wanting to do anything fresh so that he wouldn't get any blame....... Well the league was done and it's on Lennon so I don't give a * type attitude..

Aye I noticed it very clearly as well and it was clear after Ferencvaros what should've happened to Lennon. Plenty of us called it that night. Still doesn't excuse Kennedy's lack of professionalism on the sidelines though. Again it just looked like a man who knew his bosses fate would come to an end at some point and wasn't even trying to put some sort of halt to it. You could well be right on the advice bit, but I can only go on what he changed when Lennon was given the bullet....fuckall really, which flies in the face of him coming up with anything really noteworthy to change..

Hard to forget that and have a real liking for him after it. As I say though, I don't doubt he's a good coach. Hopefully Ange's job isn't on a knife-edge at some point though, we might see shruggy shoulders back

 

In the 4 years he won 2 cups and no league cups, which in reality was quite poor given the circumstances. I'm amazed people forget about that. That CL campaign really does paper over cracks

 

@McChiellini.. @Mr. Slippyfist

honestly I’ve always thought the move to the diamond and the upswing in results from that, until the Dubai fiasco, was Kennedy’s tactics.

And he kept those tactics up when he got the interim job as he thought it was the best thing for us.

Heart was well out the team by that point though.

 

Possibly..

We just lacked so much pace in that formation, up top there was no press from them or the team as a unit. Our midfield was slow and took too many touches..

It ended up really predictable and easy to combat..

 

This for me.

He very well seems to be a much respected and liked coach.

As many said last year/earlier this season, some folk are just better at the coach level rather than the step to management. Kennedy seems to be that.

I'm happy to go along with Ange these days in his assessment of the coaching staff. More so after last week's interview where he further emphasises how he (Ange) operates in dealing with staff at a new club.

So credit where it's due, Kennedy does seem like a good coach worth having. However if a manager ever came in and wanted rid, then I'm not sure we can be so loyal to the guy, such is the industry.

However, like you say, I'm very very disappointed in how he operated last year.
I'm inclined to assume Lennon was the * last season and perhaps he (Kennedy) had enough of his * and didn't want to offer much help to him. Probably a hundred reasons as to why he gave up that ghost.
But when given the interim job, to not even change things at all, not to even give a bash at injecting his own style or opinion on the squad, that was shameful. How he managed to remain in a job after that was baffling.

And as much as I've said above, I'm happy with Ange making an assessment, Kennedy (and Strachan) really shouldn't have been at the club after the final whistle of the season, to be allowed to be assessed by Ange.

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I stuck up for Kennedy all last season upto this point. Thought it was a disgrace he changed nothing & thought he was part of the problem after that.

 

Indeed, that’s why I didn’t lay 9IAR at Rodgers door. Jumping around again a bit here. Anyway..

Kennedy being appointed assistant manager to Lennon, who himself was appointed as a crony for the board (in the showers), is cronyism from the board. It predictably ended poorly.

That’s not a dig at Kennedy. Cronyism is largely a reference to how the board conducts itself in appointments, which is what my post was about.

Lennon is a poster boy for cronyism and controlling appointments. Rodgers is the antithesis of that. One of those systems clearly worked far better.

 

Same man.


Happy to be proven wrong in regards his coaching abilities and the new manager is happy to have him.

I'll not make much of an issue with it now.

Let's just hope he never is in the position to be a manager again for us, as the evidence was poor last time.



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I dunno mate, Lennon already had success with the diamond formation in his first stint, it was a total revertion from type when he did that - and to very much success, we absolutely blew away the teams in the league.

Yet, for some * forsaken reason, we swapped back to * 4-2-3-1...

 

The cronyism you go on about is a lot of pish mate.

Lennon helped celtic out by stepping in when the rat abandoned us mid season, and steered us to the treble. Giving him the job on the back of the Scottish cup win would probably not have been my choice but there was definitely an argument to be made that on the back of his success up to that point he deserved the job. That's not cronyism.

It didn't work out, for several reasons, but labelling lennon and Kennedy in that way is unfair.

 

I completely disagree with all of this. He didn’t deserve the job and the smoking gun was they didn’t even look at other candidates. They wanted their man in, a man that had wandered the wilderness and would continue to kiss their arses long after he was gone.

I’ll never forget the disappointment in the treble treble crowd when he was appointed. We all knew it was a scandal and we all knew what Lawwell was doing. There’s no point trying to change that now.

 

Christie off the right in the 4-2-3-1 and right sided 8 in the diamond

 

From what I remember that vast majority were against him getting the job full time, which carried on for a good while, until eventually the mood changed and folk including myself were actually backing him fully.

After that Dubai trip (the first one) we came back absolutely flying. Griffiths and Edouard up front and Calmac bossing every * in his path. If there were any doubters at this point they were in the minority.

A few days away from skelping the huns, who were on the verge of sacking Gerraaaaahd and what happens?

We go into lockdown and the whole world goes to *. It was the biggest kick in the balls we could ever have got.

Whatever happened after that...whether it's Lennons lack of professionalism or whatever, it could have been so very different. He was almost an even bigger legend that he ever was at the club, he had won everyone over against the odds and it would have been fuciing beautiful. Considering all the * he took over the years for the club.

It's * up how it's all turned out man. Would love to see any * on here try to deal with all that and come out with their sanity intact.

 

Aye he did, but he was clinging on to a 352 or a 4231 at the time. By all accounts the first diamond was a Garry Parker idea. Who knows, he certainly preferred the formation as an interim manager.

Doesn’t really bother me though either way, don’t think being a good coach and a not so good manager is a relatively common thing.

 

I get there was disappointment at the time of his appointment, me included, however he had been pretty succesful as celtic manager in the past and had just steered us to a treble so there was quite a strong argument to give him the job, certainly not a scandal. Appointed to be lawwells puppet? Nah, don't agree with that. To label lennon and also Kennedy as such is wrong imo.

 

I suppose we're all entitled to our opinion but I'm confident in saying the consensus when Lennon was appointed was it was a scandalous move by Lawwell hiding a deeply unpopular and unprofessional appointment among the elation of a treble.

 

How much happier do they all look they must have been like * * lenny when he was cutting about

 

MANAGERLESS Hibs are weighing up a THIRD bid to grab Celtic’s highly-regarded coach John Kennedy.

Easter Road chief Ron Gordon wanted Ange Postecoglou’s No 2 before eventually appointing Jack Ross in November, 2019.


And SunSport understands there was once more interest in Kennedy before, ironically, his close pal and former Celtic team-mate Shaun Maloney was confirmed as Ross’ successor in December.

It remains to be seen if Kennedy – highly valued at Parkhead - could yet be persuaded to head for Leith following Maloney’s stunning exit earlier today.

All he’s currently focusing on is assisting Postecoglou – with leaders Celtic on course to reclaim the title from Rangers, six points ahead and only five matches left.

But with Hibs installing legendary Scottish Cup-winning captain David Gray in charge until the end of the season they could make an approach to Celtic and Kennedy with a view to him starting in the summer.




It’s clear Gordon is a major fan of the 38-year-old who has been an integral backroom member for the last four Hoops managers – Ronny Deila, Brendan Rodgers, Neil Lennon and Postecoglou – while he also had a three month spell as interim boss at the end of last season.

One bookmaker installed Kennedy early favourite to replace Maloney who wassacked this morning after a miserable 19-game spell in his first manager’s job, failing to make the Premiership top six and also beaten by Hearts in the Scottish Cup semi-final

UEFA-qualified Kennedy – forced to retire as a player in 2009 at just 26 through a knee injury - has been associated with Celtic for over 25-years and operated at every football level at the club, from academy player to first team star, recruitment, development and first team coach and briefly in the hot-seat.

He has previously declared his ambition to be his own man at some point but needs to be convinced it’s the right position with proper scope to manage as he sees fit.