John Kennedy

Who was forced on them?

 

Aye it’s time for us to shut the * up and accept it, now that they have our money.

Let the * do what they want without question. It’s their club after all, we’re just the plebs that fund it.

 

Did Deila pick Collins and Kennedy? Did Lennon choose Kennedy and Strachan? If you believe they weren’t forced on them that’s fine. That’s your opinion. Mines is different.

 

Collins was "forced" on to deila to be fair.
It's the reason Keane knocked us back at the time as well.

The story is that deila and Collins had a dinner setup for each other to bounce ideas with the view to the pair being signed up as the dream duo.

Much I imagine in the same way Ange has "assessed" the two idiots we currently have.
And much the same way managers say they have "final say" on signings, when we all know those things are practically a formality because the alternative is * all or worse.

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Was Deila forced at gun point to sign on as manager? Was Lennon?

I’m not saying it was the preferred way to work things, but saying either were forced on anyone when both Deila and Lennon happily signed contracts is just nonsense.

Does that mean that John Kennedy, Danny McGrain, Stevie Woods etc were forced on Rodgers too???

 

Blah blah blippety blah?

Pardon?

 

Collins wasn’t forced on anyone.

It was put forward that Deila work with Collins as his assistant.

He accepted it freely.

 

Honestly, I think he was.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/29525723.amp

Keane admits this is the reason he rejected the job.
It would stand to reason, the guy we got instead of Keane was given the same offer.

Managers aren't going to admit they are a yes man or that things are done against their will. They would look foolish. They'll paint it in a good light, to themselves at times as well.

I get that though, and I'm not meaning this to be critical of Ange, you know I'm fully impressed and on board with him these days.

But Kennedy and Strachan remaining this season feels an awful lot like they were already secured the job and Ange was just going through the motion. Even if it was to convince himself he was making the call.

What worries me most though, he's not been allowed to bring his own staff yet. And the staffing pool is so small that these two really will have a large say again, which is the big worry for me.

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Neither Deila or Lennon and now Postecoglou are going to turn down the chance of managing us. Eddie Howe on the other hand.

 

Right well there ye are, no one is "forced" into taking the job with x or y.

Celtic make an offer to a manager with their terms, candidate either accepts or refuses.

 

So, going by this comment, Eddie Howe wasn't happy with the terms, yet Deila/Lennon/Postecoglou are/were.

Hardly screams of people being "forced" on them, does it?

And btw, the only time I will actually agree with you on this out of these three is possibly Lennon, I'm sure he asked for Tommy Johnson in as some sort of Chief Scout, and he got Nick Hammond.

 

I guess on technicalities, it's not "forced", but it's not right.

It's not the way a football club should operate.

Even in a dream setup of full structures with tens of coaches, physios, tenchical directors, director of football etc etc, the incoming manager should always be allowed to bring in his own assistant(s).

Call it "an offer" or "forced" for me it's the same thing and not the right way to do business.

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Listen, I agree with you on the boldened part,

But my point being, if a manager isn't happy with the terms and conditions, he's not gonna accept it is he?

 

I see it as being forced upon. Regardless, do you think it is a good way to do business?

 

Not forced to take it, certainly not.
As we seen with Keane (bullet dodged) and I believe perhaps is the same why Howe knocked us back.

That's the point it gets a worry, when good managers are knocking us back because of it.

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But there is nothing whatsoever from Keane to suggest that anything was "forced" on him, he simply states that the offer on the table for him to be manager wasn't up to his expectations. What does that say then about how the board thought of him as a potential manager? Especially him being Desmond's pal? The moustachioed-one pushed the boat out massively for both O'Neill and Rodgers, but not Keane.

 

No, I've already stated that.

Does that mean that I think anyone has had staff "forced" upon them? Absolutely not. As I posed to someone else earlier, does that mean that Stevie Woods, Danny McGrain, Tim Williamson etc were forced upon managers? OR is it simply assistant and first team coach?

 

Time to log off buddy, you’ve went full 12 year old.

 

Not at all dear, I was simply giving the pointless reply that your post deserved - considering it clearly had absolutely nothing to do with the point I raised.

 

Not sure if you read it all? He does say his assistant was already chosen for him.

"They had already picked the man who would be my assistant and they were insisting on him.
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