January Transfer window

Not going to argue that we don’t have cash, but I think the issue is different from previous years.

I honestly think they’re happy to spend a respectable amount, but it’s the convincing quality players to come here that is the problem.

By all accounts we were happy to pay north of £7m for paddy (aren’t we paying over £2m for the loan?) and you’ve got to assume that money is being kept aside for that.

Then there seemed to be a genuine offer for Musonda which wouldn’t have been pennies by our standards. It’s known that these deals can take about a year to materialise, so you’ve got to think there’s money available if he decides to join us too.

I would rather we didn’t spend the cash than panic and buy the wrong guy like we have in the past. Rodgers was burned by this approach at Liverpool too.

January is a horrible time to buy players from anywhere except Scandinavia/Russia. If we don’t get anyone then so be it. No excuse in the summer though.

 

Of course i do but not for the sake of spending £5million on a player because 'we can afford it'. They have to be the right player not the most expensive.

It's the Talk Sport syndrom. All they do every day on that station is talk about how Player X is a £120million player or Player Z is going to Chelsea for £30million as if it's throwing loose change at a tramp.
And because we have said 'We made £21million more than the year before' people now want us to be buying £4-8million players!
It's daft. We can't really afford to pay them even if we can afford the fee.
My point was if all you are worried about is a players value as a headline there are plenty teams who will be making headline purchases out there. We are not one of them.
And half of it comes as some form of embarrassment at us 'only' paying a million or two here and there on players compared to other, richer clubs. That's probably the jist of it. Top Trumps.

 

We are a football club, some careful speculating to accumulate is necessary sometimes..

Celtic have a history of not building properly from positions of strength. Some proper investment can take us clear of the opposition well beyond the 10.. and make more of an impact in Europe.

If we gamble and say fail to qualify for the CL then we adjust in the next window..

Being prudent is essential but sometimes you need to take a chance or two.

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I understand where you're coming from and for me it's adding the quality we need not the price. Ntcham at £4.5m looks good business already, it's that calibre of player I want to see.. not the price but the quality..

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Seeing their thread and the rumours, on one hand I hope they aren't going in to administration (don't believe it anyway) as we've seen that a lot of our business does dictate to what happens across at mutantsville..

It's the kinda thing if it does happen then our power's will know and probably just spend the bare minimum..

I want to see a good 2 or 3 player's coming in after Compper now. I'm not fussed about the spending if we can get a class player on a bosman, cross border instead of paying 4 million then great.....but the likelihood is if we are to progress in Europe, which is what the aim should be, then money is going to have to be spent in key area's..

 

Lee Congerton comes with a really good pedigree, I'm confident with him, BR and PL we can attract the best players within our budget.

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The only business I see is doing is Compper, Lewis Morgan and Hendry. This is based off of every window. In the summer the board promised to spend more in Jan to prepare for the CL qualifiers - never do. Summer (need to wait for players to become available). The board would sell all our key players and get in none if they could. I’m all for Scottish talent pushing through but I don’t think Morgan and Hendry are any better than what we currently have and not the level we need to push on in Europe.

 

Peter Lawwell says we dont budget for CL football we go for EL football, but we need to make a few sensible additons to the squad, but i get what @Senna s1979 is saying its fine to look at the fee as X million but it is everything that goes on top of it, its a balance act definetly, but as a few including myself have said we where willing to pay £8m for paddy so clearly those funds less compper and morgan £1.2m should be sitting there leaving £6.8m to play with and i dont think we would have banked on the £7.5m - £9.4m for Virgil so see if we had the £6.8 and added the £7.5m (as that seems to be the minimum figure banded about) to it giving us £14.3m to spend on fees and wages get 3 decent calibre players in and you really havent ate into anything except your original budget - we also got a few high earners off the wage bill last summer in Commons, Ambrose and Toure who where on a reported £60k a week between them, Ntcham i imagine will be on £20k a week plus, then you have Hayes, Benyu, Eduoard surely those other 3 cant be on £40k a week between them!

 

Summer window we spent

£4.5m Ntcham
£1.25m Hayes
£1.5m Roberts Loan
£100k Benyu Cross Border
Edouard dont know figure

£7.35m plus whatever Eduoard loan fee was say £8m spent in summer

£1.25m in for Izzy

Net spend £6.10m over whatever installments

Now in comparison to our turnover this season which i am sure will eclispe the £90m for last season then thats not a lot but bring in every other figures for running the club and its a decent sized investment but very small imo for a club who had 53,000 season ticket sales and over £30m in from Europe! but our operating costs are very high but i expect them to come down as i am sure i remember a lot of our contracts are heavily bonus incentifed, so no doubt we paid a shed load of bonuses out last season!

 

Exactly, money is there.

 

Who in this thread is advocating we should spend outwith our means? Quote the posts where you have got this?

Honestly, I have posted money we have in the bank, the first post you come in is pure condesending nonsense ‘you going to type furiously‘ with while telling people to go and support other Clubs. Complete nonsense. Pure pish.

I’m sick of listening and reading from our support spout excuses when any one wants the Board to push the boat out.

 

Sturridge to Celtic fake news we can all see through that one as well as some of the others that are out there we may well pay 8mill for a player but it's the wages as well these days

 

Aye but the electric bill...

 

I'd love to see the board spend big money on quality players, but I do think our fans are kidding themselves on if they think it'll actually happen.

 

When I have had this conversation with our support it’s deeply apparent (this is in my experience) and it’s nothing more than a defensive mechanism not to spend our own money, that’s how bad it is.

That to me is incredible.

I’ll be honest I haven’t heard any logical reason as to why we shouldn’t push the boat out but when its suggested there’s this automatic response from a percentage of our support to just outwith not tolerate any of it.

 

Booooooo..

 

Also find it strange how people bring up the collapse of Oldco when it comes to spending, pushing the boat out etc when their collapse was due to accumulating an unsustainable amount of debt and using illegal EBTs.

 

Exactly, it’s nothing but conditioning from the Media and the Board and ill explain why… There was Lawwell the other season when we failed to reach the CL groups under Deila he came out on Celtic TV and stated we can’t afford Snodgrass because he went for over £10m? I mean, who on Earth is advocating us going in for they hugely inflated fee’s? That to me is nothing more than smoke screen when he stated that and people completely buy into his propaganda.

 

I've missed you.

 

Each to our own and you can have a good chuckle. But let’s get facts out here. Apparently, it costs 800k to maintain the stadium per year. By my calculation, Lawwell is more expensive to the club than Celtic Park itself. Yet, when supporters advocate us pushing out the boat we are shot down while being told they do everything they can to keep the Season Tickets down while raising them.

I mean, what is this? The supporters will put in their hard earned cash but any ambition is not tolerated while the Board will pay themselves outragous salaries and bonuses? Nah, I wont accept that nonsense.