Is Anyone Else Getting Fed Up With The Conspiracy Nonsense?

In reply to the thread title yes I am sick of it,I`m sick of it happening season after season and I`m sick of hearing people deny that it happens.
There are a lot of referee decisions that can be put down to incompetence and general bad decision making from the MIB but there have been a whole lot more on top of that,blatant decisions over the years that have changed the course of too many games involving Celtic and rarely in our favour.
I don`t know if there is an organised (grand) masterplan but there is certainly evidence of a blatant ill will within this country toward our club that has been emanating from the football powers for many a year.Of that there can be no denial as the evidence is there for all to see.

Below is my reaction to the denialists.

 

No offence meant to you personally but that's one of the biggest piles of horse * I've ever read. Wake up.

 

Seldom was a truer word said.

I predict a big spike in the number of decisions we get, in the meaningless league games to come.

It will be night and day compared to the Cup semi etc.

 

Yup getting pretty fed up but something is rotten in the SFA.

 

Well you hit the nail firmly on the head right there

 

Whether or not you believe any conspiracy, there is a * of a lot of * that has gone against Celtic in recent years (i'm not even gonna talk about ages ago like under Stein).

In recent months the only games we've lost, a decision (or more than one) has gone against us. Coincidence, conspiracy, or just fact.

Rangers had a period where a few really bad decisions went against them at home and they lost games, but that was after they went into admin and lost the league, is it fair to say those games didn't matter so the decisions didn't either?

This season the only thing I can think of that has not gone Rangers' way in a big match is the disallowed goal at Parkhead - but Hooper was wrongly called offside later on which would have made the result 2-1, so Celtic still would have won, so Rangers weren't cheated out of a game by the ref.

Time and time again BIG decisions in BIG games go against Celtic.

Now i've said before, the truly great teams rise to the occasion and rise above the stupidity/incompetence/corruption of the officials, the current team is far from a great one but how can they ever reach that level if everything seems constantly weighted against them?

Lenny just needs to create a siege mentality with his players, do what Mourinho and Fergie have done countless times - tell them "everybody hates us, we don't care. We hate them too, let's * DO THEM!!!"

I still believe no matter how corrupt or poor decisions are in our games, if we play well enough and have enough fight and spirit about us - we will win.

Jock Stein and people of older generations suffered much worse and more blatant anti-Celtic bias but they still triumphed. No more excuses. We just need to win.
Win fair or win ugly, play The Celtic Way or kick everyone like The Huns - just * score 10 goals a game and make it so the ref CANNOT make us lose.

 

To be fair though mate we don't have the funds to field a team capable of scoring 10 goals or winning even when we are CHEATED. It's a money game now and we don't have it. Not Lennon's fault or anyone else's. So when we are CHEATED we can't overcome that as Stein's side could. This is the worst thread ever on TC imo. * hate it.

 

* the sfa.

 

Will Aberdeen be claiming a conspiracy for the offside goal that put them out of the cup also?

 

I'm fed up of everything, our paranoia the * refereeing us complaining every time we don't win we always try and find an excuse, the * state of scottish football

 

Do they have as long a list of previous as we do?

 

In b4 the Zander Diamond "goal".

 

No, I am not fed up with the conspiracy "nonsense". Because it's not nonsense.

Celtic have played in 3 massive fixtures recently. The League Cup Final against Kilmarnock, the derby game at Ibrox and yesterday's semi-final against Hearts. Celtic have played well below their best in all 3 fixtures, that much is obvious, but we have been cheated by referees in all 3 fixtures.

Anthony Stokes was fouled in the box in the last minute of the Cup Final - we should have had a penalty. We didn't get it.

Cha Du Ri should never have been red carded at Ibrox, he was. That swung the game in Rangers favour and it made it extremely unlikely we would get a result that day.

Yesterday Hearts were given a penalty in the last minute that was never a penalty.

It's completely beyond my comprehension that there are actually Celtic fans who don't think Neil Lennon has a right to be irate about these decisions. To be cheated in one of these matches would be annoying, to be cheated in 2 of these games would be absolutely infuriating but to be cheated IN ALL 3?! That is beyond bad luck or incompetence. That looks to me like referees * Celtic over.

The way I felt when the full-time whistle blew yesterday I would not have blamed Neil Lennon if he stuck one on that referee. That's how angry I was in that moment. So I most certainly do not blame Neil Lennon for running on to the pitch to confront the referee. If anything I admire his restraint in just giving the referee a mouthful.

Neil Lennon's loss of temper yesterday was not just about the penalty decision Hearts got. It was an accumulation of what happened against Kilmarnock, what happened at Ibrox and what happened yesterday all rolled into one. He obviously just boiled over and I do not blame him. I do not blame him one little bit.

We have been well and truly stiffed by referees in recent weeks and I'm * sick of it. Neil Lennon has my complete support and he should have the complete support of every other Celtic fan too. Sadly this does not appear to be the case.

It seems there are some Celtic fans who are only too willing to run with the "always cheated, never defeated" propaganda that the Huns and the media like to trot out. I would suggest that it is these people who have the problem, not Neil Lennon.

 

Wake up

 

Top post. 100% spot-on.

 

Haven't read the full thread but just out of interest...What evidence would you need to see to believe that there is an agenda against Celtic in this country? If you don't already that is.

 

As I said last night, if these officials are corrupt or biased or hate celtic, then they are the most incompetant corrupt officials one can imagine.

Yesterday we managed one goal and that goal was offside! For a referee deperately seeking to ruin celtic, I would suggest giving them benefit of the doubt for their only goal doesnt really make sense? Unless he is an evil genius who gave an offside goal to fool simpletons like me, before then * us in the last minute? And perhaps that goal that Hearts scored in our previous game that was clearly over the line but disallowed, was just chopped off in anticipation of getting celtic back when it really mattered? Or were these genuine honest mistakes?

The answer to this debate is very simple. If celtic really believed a conspiracy then why not hire an independent team of researchers and quant analysts. Hire them to publish a report on the decisions we have had for and against us over say a 10 year period. Of course it wouldnt be an exact science but if we were really that hard done by, the numbers would stand out against every other club. Then publish these and suggest a bias or not. That is the only sensible way to prove any thesis.

 

Yep.. I've been fed up with it for about 18 months to be honest. There's never been a conspiracy. Load of bullshit!

 

He is hardly gonna overrule a linesman who did not flag for offside in all fairness is he? Was at most half a yard off if even that

 

I don't think Neil Lennon is becoming a laughing stock I think he already is a laughing stock!

We are a proud club and should have a management that handle themselves in a dignified manner no matter what. We should not be behaving in the disgusting fashion that he does every time a decision or a lost game confronts us.

Sure there have been some dodgy decisions against us in the past, but Lennon's behaviour does not help us get it sorted.

Sorry but I know this will not be popular but Lennon should go. He has achieved very little since he has been manager. We are a 1st class world team, he is a 3rd rate manager that might do well in the 3rd division.

Do the decent thing Neil and walk away!!:bbpd: