INVITE TO NEW EPL 5TH TIER

This whole talk of money ruining/rotting the club is absolutely ludicrous!

If/when we've recieved huge capital from CL income, or the supposed £7m we banked from the preseason tournament.......has that changed our club or "ripped out it's soul"?

 

I actually think that business as a whole is changing in this country and Brexit will have an impact on football.

I think that we need to look at the bigger picture and the state of football as a whole. it seems to me that no matter what change is coming and either we can embrace it and be part of making the change therefore ensuring we dont lose our soul on the way.

Whether it's the EPL or EFL or Atlantic League i think within the next 5-10 years it gonna happen i think it needs to happen or the gulf between Scotland and the rest of Europe will only get bigger. So why don't we be the pioneers that we are and lead the way forward rather than be dragged into something that's not right for our club.

 

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I really don't like this idea! We'd lose all decent players and be starting from scratch with no money in the bottom league. I look at the team we have now and it isn't good enough for the premier league just yet but if we got promoted to the premier league from the championship the money you'd generate would be enough for us as a big club to challenge but starting in 5th tier is madness


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Have to disagree here, this team is more than good enough to hold its own in the EPL. Not that we're anything special, but more just the fact that there's a lot of dross in that league despite the hype.

 

I just don't see the benefit of possibly making a mid table finish of the EPL and if the talks are right and we start off in the 5th tier we would lose everything we've got at the moment. My point was if we dropped into that league now we wouldn't make top 4 and be in the champions league whereas if we got promoted from the championship the money you'd generate from that would be enough to take us to that level. I believe if we had the same money that the premier league clubs had we'd definitely be in with a shout with most top players because of how good our fan base is. You can go anywhere in the world and find a Celtic fan and you can't say the same about most premier league clubs


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People have a tendency to only get upset about stuff like that when it's their club that is having the door slammed in their face. I have no doubt that a lot of the same people who rightly complain about the path the Champions League is heading down would also happily accept an invite into the EPL tomorrow because there's more money there.

It's hypocrisy.

 

I'm not sure I really favour such a move, but I don't see the hypocricy in it. Most of the complaints about the restructuring of the CL focus around making it a bit of a closed-shop, and stifling competition. A potential move to england obviously exposes us to a much higher level of competition. That's the main appeal to me anyway, I don't really give want to have the club forking out £150k a week for bang average players and spunking tens of millions every year on dross, but I would love to see us compete at a higher level regularly.

 

* yer 5th Tier, Brendan is building a team for the Olympics

He's has all his sprinters in place and he is keeping Efe for the gymnastics.
Big Kolo will be in line for the boxing,, and Broony is up for marathon.

 

I probably didn't explain my point adequately enough.

The hypocrisy comes in when we start talking about clubs like Chelsea and Manchester City. We all know neither of those clubs are historically as big as us or have the potential that we have. So we rightly get annoyed when we see Chelsea win the Champions League or Manchester City spend £500million on players. All because they have access to English TV money. I understand and share the frustration. Yet some of the people who rightly bemoan this would, in a heartbeat, take a slice of that same pie if it was offered to Celtic. I don't think that is a consistent position to take.

 

Scottish club with irish roots....but play in the english league?? Sound ridiculous when you hear that :smiley-laughing002:

 

no thanks, would take us at least ten years before we made it to the EPL, stay in Scotland, the champions league expansion is the future

 

In 5 years time we could make that loss up and much more. The championship to the EPL is worth £120 million and that continues to rise. The money is only going to go up in England you have Championship clubs spending 10 million on one player.

 

Us going into the English set up would be a very multiplex situation for our Club.

Economics

According to the article we would be given allocation to a 'League 3/5th division', which ingresses the short possibility of reaching the Barclays Premier League if done correctly by Celtic. The environment is hugely inflated as we all know as the lucrative TV deals comprising of £5.2Billion is center to all recruitment, development and brand evolution. This would benefit us from the economic point of view.

- 126 TV companies around the world subscribe to the Premier League. 11 more than the Champions League (Which is ridiculous considering the UCL is, and will always be more prestigious).

That is the highest affluence we could ever get access too in the current Footballing environment. We would explode three times in size conservatively (including TV revenue. brand growth, share price and market capitalization).

Modernisation

With the step forward under PLCism with Fergus McCann and many other Celtic supporters who fought to oust the Kellys & Whites we boosted with the new Stadium, given us access to get greater revenue in the current game. We also opened up another source of revenue of share issues where capital can be derived from external sources. A clear benefit for the economic side of the Club. It has brought us into the age of this PLC coexistence with commercialisation.

Many of our supporters don't really approve of the commercialisation process at the Club, but could you imagine if we were granted into the English set-up? It would be a bourgeoisie private-sectored-irish-themed-green-and-white-hooped-soulless Football Club. I personally would hate that.

Political & Ethnicity

Many and I mean many do not want us signing Rebel songs down there. Period. I just couldn't imagine them accepting our weight down there with our huge political reality we bring to Football. Left politics and general anti fascist aptitude - the FA would take offense to it and I wouldn't want that seen to be deteriorated away within the support.



I'm more swayed to the idea that it isn't worth it in the long term. I would like to see us do better by generating more revenue from some sort of external revenue or be more ambitious in our recruitment like the appointment of Rodgers. The whole idea that we must budget to SPFL level is not going to work and is counter-productive for us. Its time for us to get the finger out and do some serious business from now on.

 

1) Decent post.
2) As someone who loves language, you drive me * crazy!

 

To cut a long story short, if any of this is true and the huns are invited, and go there, we have no choice but to go IMO.

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is that a phone or an airplane

 

People talking about the BPL no taking to the rebel songs we song as if that makes them any different from the SPFL, the only difference will be the BPL won't understand what we're singing about.

 

I think Scotland is tougher on what they view is "sectarian singing" than England. The racism level is about the same, but I would say it's much more likely a racist fan will be caught in EPL than SPL. Left-wing politics is ok no one would have a problem with it.

The only problem we would have is if we had a poppy protest but then a protest like that is a millions times more powerful in England than it is in Scotland, we would get grief for it but at least there would be a discussion that England really needs.