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Inconsistency this season

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Mr Shelby, Feb 3, 2018.

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  1. joemc

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    No and please dont take this wrongly ,that is the last thing we should ever do ,expectation is everything about our club its a faith almost ,its driven us to greater heights than we could imagine .

    We lower our expectation we accept 2nd prize/ 2nd best its kinda wot we have started to do in europe ,and for some reason we have allowed that mentality to creep into our psyche.

    Ok i understand realism like most do but we always bury that when up against it ,we accept defeat after 90 + mins if it happens ,so to lower expectations is not wot we are about ,we strive always to be better and over come all obsticles and in doing so you stay at the top .
     
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  2. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Unrealistic expecations in relation to the fact that expecting a similar level of success as last season is extremely unrealist to expect.
    Undefeated, when normally we would win a legaue with 4-7 defeats a season. We have only suffered defeat twice so far. Already we are probably going to be above expectations for that sort of return. It's expecting the same level of success as last season I feel some of us could do with accepting isn't going to happen again.

    That isn't to accept sub-par performances, which have been frequent this season, but even they can be attributed to 4 or 5 of our attacking options being out injured for long spells of this season.

    A dose of reality, perhaps a better phrase.
    Certainly don't want us to lower our overall expectations, just don't think we should be judging everything based off of the invincible season.
     
  3. TheHappyLoss

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    Agree some expectations have been too high, and agree with your reasons. Sadly some of the football this season has been dull as *. Still winning the title and a cup or two is the most important thing. Even with us being a bit ropey no other team in Scotland is anywhere near us
     
  4. joemc

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    Think the biggest problem is attitude ,hunger ,both teams who have beaten us this year showed more of both ,if we always match theirs we have the players that should win 99.9 % of the time ,bad luck or ref being the only other reason we wont .
    Every player they had had broonys fighting qualities ,and they never gave up anything ,their pressing was way better than ours ,3 players mostly shutting down the area of play ,we were 1 mostly arriving late instead of anticipating where the next pass is going and closing that down like they where ,i feel we are expecting a win and not treating games like cup finals like every team we play are ,and lastly there is an energy missing when griff is out that rubs of on our whole attack .
     
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  5. joemc

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    Also its important to add how a terrible playing surface is becoming much more of a disadvantage to us as than our opposition.
     
  6. Blochairnbhoy

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    The league as a whole is inconsistent this year, looking at winning run form guides from matchdays 1 to 26 the best winning runs are Aberdeen, Hibs and Sevco all winning 4 matches on the bounce, most Celtic have won in a row is 3 which is out worst winning run rates since Tommy Burns in 1995/96 season where draws prevented us winning the league despite losing only 1 league match all season!

    To be 7 games away from the split and not won any more than 3 in a row is disgraceful for me, the winning run masked it, there was no excuse for Saturday that was woeful, the pitch is the same for both teams but Celtic could have played till this Friday and still not scored!
     
  7. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    I couldn’t GAF if we don’t win 4 games in a row from now until eternity if we keep winning leagues and trophies but maybe I’m alone in that thinking. Who knows.
     
  8. packybhoy Administrator Administrator

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    Yeah that has to be the priority every time Paul. But for me, I'm one that domestically expect the Hoops to put all before us to the sword. I am not raging more frustrated at lack of fluency and consistency. I know those players we have are good footballers individually and should have enough clout to turn over Kilmarnocks. Every dog has its day but too many have this season. And for me I do believe the winning stretch has taken the wind out of our sails and every team is up for us this term.
     
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  9. celtic warrior

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    Wouldn't say it's inconsistency this season that's the problem it's the utter super human freak of season we had last season that's the problem.

    What we are seeing now is football for the most part in a normal environment, yes we've not been as creative as perhaps we could be but these constant niggling injuries our squad keeps picking up is really hampering our progress, winning streaks have been mentioned already so with that in mind I'd be interested in seeing which teams have had the most consistent 11 and formation and see if that has had any bearing on the win streaks.

    Every week now it feels like Rodger's is forced into a new formation and having rotate the squad more than even he would like and that can't be helping our results.
     
  10. FrankMcCallum

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    The striker situation - This is one of the main issues in my opinion. You’d think having two quality strikers would be a good thing but it’s actually becoming a burden, both for the manager and the two players. No consistency or rythym for either of them and they are both too eager to impress when they get a chance.

    Injuries - We need guys like Simunovic, Roberts and Rogic available for every game. Having key players out from your first eleven would affect any team in world football.

    Change of mentality - As a few have pointed out our players perhaps they just need to turn up to get the points. This is potentially subconscious as I’m not trying to suggest they aren’t trying. But it’s only natural after going a season unbeaten to take the foot off the gas to some extent.

    Fatigue - The amount of games we play is scandalous, in addition to our players international exploits. They must be * but this is a condition of playing for us, battling on all fronts, particularly if you’re an international player.

    Finally, something that has been doing my * in for months. The amount of times there is a player in a better position than the guy on the ball and he’ll take an extra touch, take the shot on himself, or try and dribble past an additional opponent. I can’t even blame one player for this as I’ve seen so many players in the squad do this. It may be eagerness to impress due to competition for places but one of the key elements of our success last year was our team ethic and selflessness and we must recapture this as soon as possible.
     
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    Its all ifs and buts paul, if the sheep hadnt lost 3 games vs Sevco they would be 1 pt clear now, i just think a team like celtic should be looking to put 8-10 game winning runs in place, goes to show how poor and inconsistent the league actually is!
     
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  12. joemc

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    League is more competative ,makes for more excitement,bettter for tv deals ,stops us becoming bored and resting to heavy on our lawels :celt_2: ,but if you look at both games we lost ,pitches played a big part as did our injury list ,another thing though is it has made the team realise they can be beaten and that affects confidence ,rather than doing ,we are thinking first witch distrupts our flow ,it will come good again in the last few month of the season .
     
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    So it is our worst points tally after the amount of games played at this stage in 5 years but we still have a 8 point lead, just backs up my points it isnt acceptable to not have won 4 games in a row and the league as a whole is inconsistent.
     
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    What disappoints me most this season is not the results but the performances.
    How often this season has the team produced a good performance?
    Not enough times this season have we really clicked .
    I can accept a defeat or a draw if we played well but I cannot accept half par performances when we are capable of so much more . I get the impression that some players can’t be bothered to produce the performance they are capable of .
     
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    There is going to be a lot of dropped points in the final dozen games from all 3 teams at the top

    Celtic with away games to hearts, hibs, Motherwell, Sevco and Aberdeen And home to Aberdeen and Sevco

    Sevco home to Celtic, hearts and away to Celtic, hearts, hibs and Aberdeen.

    Aberdeen with home and away vs Celtic and home to Sevco, home and away to hibs and away to hearts

    I still think this could go to the final few games none of the 3 of us look like building up any sort of 6-8 game winning run!
     
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    I hope not mate, my heart couldn't take it going to the last few games of the season. :giggle1: They shouldn't be getting anywhere near close to stopping us getting the 10 with the fininances we have, if they manage to stop us getting the 10 it would be a tragedy.
     
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    We are by a mile still better than the other teams, if push comes to shove we would easy win 5+ games in a row
     
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    * *. Lost two games under Rodgers and some on here are worried about that absolute banter club stopping the ten...
     
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    For me it seems that every time the opponents take it actively and straight to our face and stay disciplined to a systematic defending that counters our game creating we end up in a trouble. For example, playing out the wide mans and giving high pressure to defence. Sinclair has been under a series of critics this season, but I think he is a perfect example of the situation: as people have already pointed out, the domestic clubs are getting more and more familiar with our strenghts, for which we don't have enough alternatives. Early in this season at least St. Johnstone and Hibs displayed this, later on Hearts and now Killie.

    The recipe for the problem would be evolving and potential methods innumerable. Players can find new tricks and improve their performance in high pressure situations, system modified and new players brought in ...

    Some say it is futile to raise concerns after two domestic losses. It is true that in big picture their magnitude is close to nothing, but taking the perspective to a close range timeline and seeing there a couple of sudden huge drops in performance sounds like a relevant reason to discuss about the direction of the club so dear. Not implying any unnecessary doubt of skills of Rodgers and co. to cope with that.

    :ynwacelti
     
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