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Illegia's UEFA appeal fails - Going to CAS. FAILS AGAIN

Discussion in 'World Football' started by dazza297, Aug 11, 2014.

Discuss Illegia's UEFA appeal fails - Going to CAS. FAILS AGAIN in the World Football area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Roskopicachu

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    It's similar, but not the same. Peter Mate wasn't registered, but he also wasn't banned for violent conduct.

    This is what makes it unlikely Legia will be allowed back in.

    UEFA come down hard on players who have been red carded for violent conduct. The player also knew he had to be registered, he asked for guidance on the issue and they said, "Don't worry about it."

    Now if the player knew about it, he's hardly going to go and say, i'm not sure if i can play. He's going to say i don't think i'm allowed to play because i wasn't registered. He said the person he spoke to inside the club mentioned a similar case. Was that the Debrecen case?
    Hence them thinking the worst that can happen is we get lots of media attention and it's worth it for a £15,000 fine.

    So you have to wonder if the whole concept of Legia not knowing he hadn't been registered is untrue.

    My take on it is, if he had not been banned for violent conduct UEFA would have had a different stance. Peter Mate was not banned, and UEFA have very strict guidelines towards something where a player has attacked another player on the pitch.

    This is why CAS potentially see it as an open and shut case in favor of UEFA.
    Fast track it, get it out of the way sort of thing.

    Legia ask for more things in the hope the main one will be over turned, but essentially it comes down to fielding a player who is banned for violent conduct, he somehow knew he hadn't been registered previously.

    The question is, did they think it wouldn't matter because of the Debrecen case. Not whether the Debrecen case is applicable to all teams.

    That was different because he wasn't actually suspended.
     
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  2. FATLAZYBHOY Born in the steamie Gold Member

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    and theres no chance of them doing that.
    think there going to postpone matches and distrupt t.v schedules because, when it boils down to the root of all this, legia broke the rules, and are now throwing there toys out of the pram.
     
  3. Woody

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    I'm not upto speed in this. Last time I checked UEFA had thrown Legia's appeal in the bin so what has changed? Are we really looking at being kicked out ?
     
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    CAS will hear legia appeal on Monday with a final decision by Monday evening 5pm. Uefa didn't approve the meeting but uefa and celtic have been asked to put written statements in, why celtic have to do it is beyond me?

    I didn't think CAS could overturn a uefa team decision on team matters but it appears they do!

    They can overturn uefa decision and allow legia back in, reduce the penalty to a fine and let legia in, or uphold uefa decision and we stay in playoff but whatever CAS decide that's the final decision and uefa and celtic must abide by it, legia if they are still banned can do what sion did and go to civil court in Switzerland but that would take months, but if legia are reinstated uefa and celtic can do nothing to appeal it from what I read as CAS decision is final (except on legia civil court judgement if they go ahead with that)

    So in theory we could still be going to Kazakhstan but this late in the day I would think its 70/30 in our favour but with these things you never know do you?
     
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  5. Beldub

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    Ludowik Zukowski, a lawyer who has represented several Polish athletes in CAS hearings, has warned Legia there is only a 1% chance of having the ties postponed


    ... From eveningtimes.co.uk


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
     
  6. Roskopicachu

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    Canny see it happening.
     
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  7. Free the Adblock Gold Member Gold Member

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    If and when CAS knock them back. What will uefa do to them ? Surely they'll come down on the * ?
     
  8. honda Gold Member Gold Member

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    Then they'll go to there swiss courts :56: thats when uefa will come down on them impossing a lifetime european ban. I can wish cant i?
     
  9. Woody

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    That doesn't sound to promising I have to admit! It's a nightmare to think that when Uefa make decisions they can still be over rules by someone else. I've never even heard of CAS!

    Thanks for the info :50:
     
  10. Free the Adblock Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jesus Christ man. So many steps, just to make sure these cheating , moaning * get the picture.
     
  11. Beldub

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    Look fellow tims - in this life nothing is 100% but i would put it at a lot more than 70/30 in our favour - it would cause chaos if it didn't go our way

    Relax take your mind of it - heres a pic of Danni from the 80s
    [​IMG]
     
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    Does anyone know why Celtic have been asked to provide a written statement? I mean what can Pete write when we were not the ones that raised it in the first place.

    UEFA, yes as they made a ruling twice but us :39:
     
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    Read up on it, lot of scaremongering effers on here :smiley-laughing002: Legia have nae chance :celt_2::celt_2: Preliminary hearing Monday only. No co-operating fast track from UEFA means it can't be decided for weeks even if CAS went on Legia's side. Both Celtic and Maribor selling tickets. Up yeez again Legia
     
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    Typical scaremongering, please read carefully, CAS on monday can only impose provisional measures.

    Just like the appeal it is still 90% in our favour, Uefa won't reject an appeal knowing there is a loophole that can be used when going to CAS.

    Chillax and lets not take Tifosi seriously.
     
  15. Glasgow_Bhoy88

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    Is one of those measures replacing us with Legia??

    I'm more worried about how if affect the players and their prep for Maribor. They haven't come across as the most mentally strong in recent times.
     
  16. Sean Daleer Free Palestine Gold Member

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    As long as Tifosi isn't advising them I'm sure they'll be fine. :smiley-laughing002:
     
  17. FATLAZYBHOY Born in the steamie Gold Member

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    just a wee bit off topic here......

    but in what sites does lion1961 trawl through to find this ?
    and what would you type into google images ?
    ''* * rowing machine'' ?
    ''* annihilator'' ?
    ''sphincter surprise'' ?
    :56::56:
     
  18. Lennon2011

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    Zero chance of this being overturned, The rules are black and white plain as day. If you play a suspended player knowing or unknowing you'll forfeit the match 3-0.

    Shifting blame to Celtic because they fecked up.
     
  19. evilbunny1991

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    The provisional measure would be to reverse the decision and bring Legia back into the competition, as i said its highly unlikely just like the appeal was.

    The rules are hard and fast, as Uefa will say when they give their written statement to CAS.

    I would imagine this will set off a long discussion on the rules and possibly change them but currently they won't be changed to suit one situation because of the backlash it would cause from teams who previously fielded suspended players.
     
  20. honda Gold Member Gold Member

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    So can we officially say "Get it up ye illega!!!!"