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Discussion in 'World Football' started by southern_hudds, Aug 26, 2012.

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  1. southern_hudds

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    Cheers!

    It is a lot of money for a Championship player. I can't speak for all Huddersfield supporters but the general feeling is if he went then good luck to him. If we were cash strapped like we have been in the past then we would be very worried as we know that £8m would disappear and never ever be spent on a replacement(s). The buzz and feel of the place right now is just pure positivity. If he goes? Fine, im sure the club would spend a few million bringing in a top player, maybe even 2 or 3.

    Besides, all the media hype surrounding Rhodes has taken the focus away from the other 2 talents, one in particular called Jimmy Spencer. Man City had a bid for him turned down but he is THE one we're hoping to keep.

    That Tony Watt sounds like a prospect. I'll have to google him.
     
  2. Seosamh Máirtín

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    Best of luck in your campaign. I wouldn't mind seeing Rhodes join our club, but I've not really seen enough of him to gauge how he'd be worth 8m. From what I have seen, he's not what we really need, anyway.
     
  3. Shane1888

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    Would we better sticking an offer in for this Jimmy Spencer then? :icon_mrgreen:
     
  4. Celtic Bhoy 94

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    Watt is not as good as Rhodes:56: But when he's 22 and he has a few more seasons under his belt I have no doubt that he can be a better player than Rhodes currently is
     
  5. Larsson93

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    So basically your a terrible version of Man City and a * QPR?

    Offering inflated wages to players that barley deserve it to have your moment in the limelight?

    Personally I hope yous fail :) Too man clubs taking the short cut to success these days.

    I hope yous pull a pompy.
     
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    good luck keeping him once his contract is up. well see if youre still calling him loyal then.
     
  7. Hammy89 Gold Member Gold Member

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    you still haven't explained how you're 'stable'. what if the owner, Ghod forbid, was to drop dead tomorrow? would all your finances be fecked? would the club sink like a stone after leaching on it's owners wallet?

    you claim to build up from grass roots but i can't help relate the feelings below. there should've been a rule to live within your means decades before now.

    it's like living off the state. pay your own way! i didn't mind Huddersfield before you shed some light on their finances, now i think your club epitomises what's wrong with English and, to an extent, World football. paying over the odds for players, both in wages and fees is why clubs are struggling and why you'll inevitably struggle too.

     
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  8. southern_hudds

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    Why would we fail? The owner stated its evolution not revolution. Everything is being done within the financial structure he has set. We're not spending £3m on one player like other clubs have done. Our biggest signing is still from 2 seasons ago when we bought Danny Ward for £1m. It took us 3 years to get out of League One with the new owner. He wants to build a core and evolve. Otherwise he would have spent a fortune and got us out in his first season. Lee Clark was useless, however.

    Paying inflated wages? Not if the club can afford them they're not, which the club can. £20k a week for our best players? If that is what is required then why not pay them that? Jack Hunt tore Arsenal and Kieran Gibbs a new one in the FA Cup 2 seasons back and the other night made Bellamy look like he was pulling a cruise liner he's so quick, not to mention pushing on so often he more or less made Bellamy play left back. Not bad for a full back. And Jimmy Spencer has Man City sniffing all over him. Pay up or miss out. Hunt and Spencer are academy players and Rhodes cost just over £100k.

    Ive read plenty of fans forums regarding Rhodes and the general opinion amongst the fans of clubs who have been linked with Rhodes is offer Huddersfield a few million and they'll * our hands off. Couldn't be further from the truth.

    Ive laid out a few facts about the position Huddersfield are in, giving Celtic fans a much better idea of what is needed to get Rhodes, and it isn't £5m, £6m or even £7m. Its £8m.

    You clearly have a problem reading. I did say we're not a club with a foreign owner. Mandaric left Portsmouth in a complete financial mess. As for City? That bubble won't burst. Just like Chelsea's was supposed to, right? And QPR? We're a division below QPR but everything about Huddersfield Town is ten times better than the set up of QPR, from the training ground to the stadium, to NOT having a foriegn investment. I live near their training ground in Harmondsworth and its a complete and utter tip.

    We won't do a Pompey, as much as you hope. We simply won't.
     
  9. southern_hudds

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    The owner doesn't have a main business with Huddersfield as the side show or toy. His business is Huddersfield Town FC.

    We're in good hands.

    Steve Jobs is dead. Whats happened to Apple Inc?

    We're not City, QPR, Pompey, Man U or even Blackburn with foreign owners who think they can bully smaller clubs. We're going about everything quietly.

    We beat Burnely with ease yesterday 2-0. Wasn't even a game, actually felt sorry for Burnley. I looked at their forum and it was all sour grapes, how could we lose to a club like Huddersfield, we should be beating sides like them et cetera. Its pure ignorance. Sides like Huddersfield? With bigger home attendances and much more financial clout, better manager, better resources, and a side that happened to outbid them to sign Norwood from Man U. As i said, sour grapes.

    Long may that view of Huddersfield continue, because as i said originally we'll just slip in quietly under the radar.
     
  10. southern_hudds

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    If he's fired us to the Premier League i don't think anybody would begrudge him a move, even if he leaves for nothing as a free agent. Ive already said our owner isn't in it to make money and run off, otherwise he'd have taken the first offer that came along from West Ham. He doesn't need the money.

    The general feeling amongst supporters is if we get £8m and the lad wants to go then he goes. We'll buy 2 or 3 very good players with the money.
     
  11. Liam Scales

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    I don't understand how people are getting Huddersfield being a Man City or QPR or so from this.

    The guy in charge is a Fergus McCann or Dermott Desmon type. Celtic fans, of all people should understand this.

    Show a little bit of respect lads, read the guys post. Have a look there history if you are going to comment and stop being dicks.
     
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    Fair play to yous I hope you do well. I don't know why some people on here are hoping for your failure and I don't see anything wrong with what your team's doing. Of course there's always the possibility that your owner could lose interest or die and you'd probably be in a bit of a financial pickle. Much like what happened to Gretna. Lets hope that doesn't happen.

    But I've been saying for ages that Rhodes is not the player we should be looking at. Firstly whether its 6 or 8 million we're not really in a position to pay that right now. And he is not better than Hooper. When we buy a new striker I want someone whose so good that when we play one up front it would be laughable to suggest leaving him out for any of our other strikers. We're not in a position to buy someone like that now but next season we will be. Look at Giroud, Podolski, Ba and Cisse. They're all good enough to be that player and fees were between £6m and £11m if I remember rightly. Yes wages might be £40k or £50k a week but we need to pay that if we want to go to the next level of reaching the latter stages of the Champions League. We're good enough to reach the group stages now and with no Rangers we'll virtually walk in for the next 5 seasons. But we need 2 or 3 top class players to really progress and the likes of Rhodes, Russell and virtually any other British player in our price range aren't good enough to improve our squad. Next season and the one after I think we need to sign a top class centre-back and a top class striker. Not some half-decent, over-priced players from the Championship.

    The fact is our squad is good enough to walk the SPL this season and to do a decent job in Europe. I really don't see the point in buying new players if they aren't improving our team.
     
  13. monthehoops1888

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    I hope Huddersfield do well and i dont see why they cant push for a promotion place......
     
  14. southern_hudds

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    Cheers, hopefully we will. Won't be this season, however. Some fans expectations are that we just do our best to stay up. Aiming pretty low that. A lot of Town supporters, especially those older than me remember all the bad times, liquidation threats etc so they're a bit more cautious with their hope! Mid table this season will do us fine, push on from there.

    Good luck in Champions League.
     
  15. southern_hudds

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    Well exactly. That is precisely it. If you've got a great scouting network you can pick up these gems, like Ba for example. The lad is fantastic and cost what, £6m? Poldolski has got something like 50 caps for Germany, £10m. Prices for British players are massively inflated. £12m for Fletcher? Martin O'Neill needs his head testing. He'll never get you 20 goals in the Premier League. Sunderland waste money like their is no tomorrow.

    Rhodes can play as a lone striker but if you do that he looks completely forlorn. Lee Clark nearly always played him up top by himself and you could see his frustration by the 60 minute mark or so, having to drop deeper and deeper to just get a touch. But even so he still scored 42 league goals in a team that wasn't playing for the manager that season and lacked masive belief. He does need a strike partner which is why we signed James Vaughan from Norwich. Rhodes is good, no doubt about it, but he wont get the ball on the half way line and dribble it past a couple of players and score. But then if Rhodes could do that AND score like he does then it wouldn't be £8m in this market, it would be £12m and upward.

    What Rhodes is is a natural finisher. Its 1 chance 1 goal. People keep saying Beckford couldn't do it at Everton, thats because he needs 6 chances to score 1 goal, and at Leeds in League One he had players like Snodgrass, Howell and Becchio creating those chances.

    Rhodes will score at any level, including Premier League. All he needs is a chance. Saturday was a bad game for Rhodes, he had 3 chances all game, one hit the bar, one cleared off the line and one he scored. On a good day he would have bagged yet another hattrick.

    Look at his goal for Scotland against Australia, natural finish. He is lethal in the box, best header of the ball ive ever seen, and i get invited to a lot of Premier League games (im 29 so you may remember good headers of the ball that i won't have seen depending on your age, i include Alan Shearer in that) He's two footed, left or right makes no difference to him, he's big and strong, movement is fantastic, positioning is great and he isn't as slow as people make out. If you look at his 5 goals against Wycombe he scored one by outpacing their centre back. Left him for dead.

    We see Rhodes week in week out, he is worth £8m in this market. And to compare him to flash, arrogant flops like Beckford, or players that need 5 million chances to score like Mackaill-Smith, is an insult to the lad.

    As i said. We rate Rhodes very highly, but the real gems are Jack Hunt and Jimmy Spencer, who we are struggling to keep hold of because of Man City's persistence. We can offer £20k a week which is a huge amount for Championship football but City can come along and offer £40k a week and just stick them in the reserves.

    I think Celtic will walk the league without Rangers being there. That a good thing or a bad thing?
     
  16. southern_hudds

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    I don't think people read the posts properly. Without Dean Hoyle coming in and clearing our debt we'd be f***ed. No two ways about it. Ive got a video on my old phone of Hoyle in a pub with supporters outside Leyton Orient's ground, having a pint and chatting with fans. He is a fan himself. He has created a club with no barriers, no us and them, no flash players (he shipped all the big time charlies out). He is what every fan should want for their club. Born and bred local lad with bags of money running the club he grew up watching.

    People in England, and i think the UK in general, seem to think there was no football before the Premier League arrived on the scene in 1992. Its a country and media obsessed with all things PL. We get irritated when supporters and media are all Huddersfield who? Little Huddersfield, tip pot Huddersfield. We have great history. FA Cup winners, won the league 3 times in a row, only Liverpool, Arsenal and Man U can say that. We've been around since year dot. Shankly is as big a part of Huddersfield as he is Liverpool. Dennis Law is a hero in Huddersfield.

    To compare us to the likes of Peterboro, which people have in the past, is just, well, shocking! And when Southampton and Charlton dropped down to League One the view of their fans was Huddersfield should be honoured to play them. What? F**k off. Southampton took 700 fans to Huddersfield on a saturday. We took 2200 to Southampton on a tuesday night. We've taken 4000 to Oldham. We took so many down to Leyton Orient that Huddersfield supporters made up more than half of the total attendance. Not every away game is like that, obviously. But we can pull in the crowds.

    We're not under any false illusions, however. We know who we are. Our view is if Stoke can do it, if in the recent past Middlesboro, Hull, Blackburn, etc can do it then so can we.
     
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    Ive got family in the Huddersfield Area (Mirfield) and Ive actually been with my cousins to McAlpine stadium a couple of times years ago

    hope you get to the Premier League in time

    I love Town
     
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    Seems more like a Sir Minty Moonbeams to me.

    Fair play to the lad posting, he is obviously very passionate about his club but Huddersfield epitomize everything that is wrong with English football at the minute.

    I actually wanted Huddersfield to do well before reading this thread though :56:
     
  19. Hammy89 Gold Member Gold Member

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    like Larsson93, i liked Huddersfield before you shed light on their finances. a leach like many English clubs.
     
  20. southern_hudds

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    Leach? From who? When you say the Club, what or who do you mean? Ive explained that Dean Hoyle has set a rigid financial structure for the club.

    He reduced the prices of a season ticket to £100. Is that part of some sinister agenda destroying English football as well? Or is that a bloke making football affordable to the working man and taking it back to where it belongs? We live within our means. We don't borrow from banks.


    Seeing as you're so bothered about our owner how about Celtic give back the money they get from Sky Sports. Maybe hand back all sponsorship money. Why not let the fans in for free?

    Can we assume that if Celtic qualify for the Champions League you'll be writing to the owners of your club pleading with them to not accept the financial rewards that qualification brings?

    We're not on a level playing field, unfortunately. If you want that then every club should be set a wages and transfer fee cap.

    Id be very interested to see what Celtic's budget is compared to St Johnstone.

    Celtic FC. Kit manufacturer, Nike. Say no more. Sell to the highest bidder, did we?