How Do You Think The Club Should Deal With Leigh Griffiths?

if that is him in that video singing that then celtic should be hitting him with a huge fine not because the daily record say so ,or because i think what he sung was strictly speaking racist but because he has got to realize you cant come out with * like that ,especially when you represent celtic ,i dont believe that he has a total disregard for his present teamates that have come from all over the world to play here to be singing something like that rather he was playing the fool to a bar full of people in which case he needs to grow up imediately

 

It's a headline to sell newspapers and he's been a bit stupid to put himself in that position. He's been warned, fined and you'd hope he'd understand you can't get away with that these days because everyone with a phone, has a camera and has the technology to report anything to a billion people for free and in seconds.

It's knowing where you can go and who you can trust. I'd imagine he's had this explained to him so it should be put to rest.

 

Or don't sing racist bile in the first place.

 

So the moral of the story is, don't get caught being a racist? Be more clever about your racist outbursts in future?

 

Cut his baws aff!!

Nothing to do with the singing, but 4 kids by 23...

Aff wae them.

 

This threads * depressing.

 

I don't think I'll ever be convinced that Griffiths is doing anything other than singing a football song or has the intention to offend anyone outside of that one guy he's singing about. It's not racism for me because it's not aimed at a race, a refugee isn't even a stereotype of the Czech Republic is it? I can't even work out how the song started, unless the guy is genuinely a refugee? But even then it would be a personal insult not a general one aimed at offending an entire nation or race. I don't think race has anything to do with it.

 

I've heard that rabbits are now calling * "going at it like Griffiths". :smiley-laughing002:

 

Alright, just one ball cut off.

 

It's a stereotype about Eastern Europeans in the EU. Refugee being used as an insult to imply they aren't the same class as the people already residing in the UK.

 

So it's a stupid offensive song as everybody has already said, but not racist. Unless Eastern European has become a race? Anyway, even then I don't believe within the context of the song it's aimed at being anything other than a cheap shot at one person, not an entire section of Europe. It's still not defendable in terms of the fact he shouldn't have sung it at all and he needs to be severely punished, but not for being racist.

 

racism


noun
noun: racism
1.
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

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The racism comes from the assumption that all Eastern Europeans are refugees therefore inferior to the indigenous people (a lot of whom will be descended from immigrants themselves, * idiots).

I think we are getting bogged down in semantics here, if he had said it about someone from Sierra Leone no-one would be questioning the race angle.

Racism is much more than skin colour imo.

 

I think if you view the likes of the famine song racist, then this is in a similar vein. The context in this case might be aimed at the one person, however he is using a widely used disparaging remark about Eastern Europeans to do so.

So while it may be aimed at one person, in reality, it's not just the one person that it effects.

In the context of he has previously been found guilty of racist remarks, it doesn't paint a good picture of him.

 

As someone who lives in Hungary and has close Hungarian/ Eastern European family and friends, I find the whole 'refugee' idea an insult and a lazy, ill informed racist slur. I don't know about sacking him...

I hated when we first signed him then I turned as he played well, I will support anyone in Hoops but now I am back to the not-enjoying-the-sight of him.

 

Off topic but you have an outstanding name

 

Are we dealing with semantics now? It isn't racism as its mocking Skacels ethnic background? Eastern European isnt a race?

Although some see it as 'banter', it's still singling out some due to their ethnic/culutral background. Ethnocentrism.

noun
1. the belief in the inherent superiority of one's own ethnic group or culture.
2. a tendency to view alien groups or cultures from the perspective of one's own.

Doesnt make it right. Its a slur on Skacel's ethnicity because he's from the Czech Republic. As though its some backwater inhabited by refugees and rife with poverty. It's not! Was the famine song acceptable? People on here were quite rightly vocal about the connotations and meaning of the song. As Sean said, if he or someone else sang 'Brother Walfrid is a * refugee', this forum would be in meltdown.

He's done it. He's had previous. It's hard to defend. He needs to grow up. In this instance he's guilty of numerous things, stupidity being one of them.

 

Everyone has the right to view it how they best see fit, but throwing wikipedia definitions about isn't going to change my mind. I just find it very hard to believe that within the context he was using the words it's supposed to be how people have taken it.

 

What I'm saying by showing off is leigh griffiths singing about skacel he knows fine well that most hibs fans hate him and will all get going with that song in the pubs, even though its wrong..
Leigh griffiths started it but he hardly made up that song and so then is clearly following others. .

He does anything to endear himself to those he wants to love him at the time..

In answer to your question, I have personally sang songs about the ibrox disaster for a reaction but I'm not pro huns dying..

And I agree he needs to curb many things as I've mentioned previously as all his attention seems to be bad publicity and offensive..
If he doesn't learn this quickly and now then he's a lost cause. .

 

It is racism. It is embarrassing for the club. It is unforgivable (along with his disgusting tweet).

I would give him one last chance, if he * up again he is out. If he is sacked before that I would be fine with that too. This club should have morals.

 

Bang on.

It's stupid at best and discrimination at worst in my opinion. Not racism.