How Do You Think The Club Should Deal With Leigh Griffiths?

Racism isn't showing off, that to me is thinking that a view you have is acceptable because you and your circle of friends engage in it all the time.

do you think that if he and his mates were vehemently anti racism that he would be saying those things just for attention?

He's a professional footballer ffs, how much more attention does he need?

 

I think we should have a poll
How many people think the Daily record is deliberately setting up Griffiths
How many people believe the D.R. Think Griffiths was racist
How many people think the Hibs fans set up Griffiths
How many people think Griffiths fid nothing wrong ,

 

I don't get on my high horse about people calling me a * * a tarrier a bead rattling * but it doesn't make it right because he won't lose any sleep over it it's offensive and is offensive to other people aswell

 

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Only one of them can be answered, the rest are factually incorrect.

 

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Griffiths singing about '* refugees'....... it's wrong, it certainly does nothing but spout hate towards a guy because we're he's from.

Sorry but that in my opinion has no place at Celtic. I'd like to think we can leave hateful bile like that to them across the city.

 

I always thought racism was by definition "actions, practices or beliefs, or social or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently".

Is Czech a race?

This racist thing get's thrown around a bit too much for my liking. Was he a *? Yes. Does he deserve punishment? Yes.

Was it racist? Not in my book.

 

I don't see how anyone can argue against the fact that what he was singing was racist to be honest. It's not even up for debate in my opinion.

For me, it's already time up for him, and he should be shown the door.

This is a grown man, not some 15 or 16 year old, and he should know what is right and wrong. Has he maybe had a few drinks, perhaps, but it's no excuse. I've been mortal plenty of times, and I've never thought about singing racist bile.

It wasn't his first racist incident, and probably won't be his last. This is a guy that will never learn in my opinion.

 

I think I see what you're getting at here and, looked at naively, you could have a point: Skacel is a white European and no explicit mention is made of race; looked at with common sense, however, the racist implications are blatant. To see this, just think about what kind of mindset thinks that calling someone a refugee is some kind of insult (and the context of the song and use of the word "*" beforehand clearly show this to be how the word is being used). It is clearly meant to insult him based on his ethnic origin.

As SD says: if this is what he actually thinks is OK and puts on social media and sings on camera, what does he do and say in private with his mates?

 

Amazed and gutted.

 

There is not a hope in * he would have got the same support had the second video been common knowledge. If anything, he might have taken a bit of stick for it I think.

 

Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not justifying what he said. He was definitely wrong.

I'm just saying that what he said wasn't actually racist in my book, unless the Czech people are a race, of course.

What he said was discriminatory I think, not racist. Both are unacceptable, of course, but are completely different in my opinion.

I think, especially in this day & age, it's not wise to throw the term "racist" at someone when they don't deserve it (although it has become rather fashionable to do so i reckon).

 

It is racist, mate. Read my post again as I can't think of a clearer way to explain it. Or read this one by SD:

If you still don't get it, hopefully Sween or MM can explain it better than I can.

 

Oh no, I get it. In today's world pretty much every insult you make to someone who isn't from the same background as yourself is deemed racist.

What I'm saying is that I personally don't think what he said was racist. It was discriminatory in my book.

 

Have been very busy this weekend so not read/heard/seen much on this.
From what I have gathered not only has he been signing about the plight of the relegated tarts but he has been signing about people having to go "home" ? I take it there is proper proof of this ?

 

A bloo bloo bloo so sad, we need to protect everybody's feelings!

Sack people for speaking words!

Such a sickening extreme left rhetoric.

 

It's not about protecting feelings; I couldn't give a * about Rudi Skacel's feelings. However, Celtic (and its supporters) have always claimed to be about more than just the financial bottom line and on-pitch results. While recent events with the board have led me to call into question whether this is still true, I still believe that the principles of tolerance and anti-racism should be at the core of our identity.

I have no problem with a bit of banter, say for instance the "Hearts are going bust" song. But ridiculing someone's personal and national identity, especially given the background of our club as representatives of a nation who have been persecuted for the greater part of the past millenium, goes against everything we stand for.

Now I don't think we should sack Leigh because it would accomplish nothing but add bitterness to his ignorance, but this is less about enforcing political correctness than it is about standing up for the ideal of tolerance.

 

Who the * hasn't been repressed for the greater part of the past? He sang some words, he didn't rape and kill his grandparents. * sake.

 

By that logic, songs like the Billy Boys are perfectly acceptable because hey, the huns aren't ACTUALLY up to their knees in * blood.

If supporters want to disgrace themselves by singing songs like "Rudi Skacel's a * refugee", that's their prerogative - I'll just dislike them a bit more. But there's no place for Celtic players singing that *.

 

You have a strange way of looking at this...