Honest Mistakes Thread 2016/17 onwards.

the was no contact at that point ,in that image no .the contact only happened when sakala unnaturally streched his right leg to step on starfelts foot .had there been the slightest contact before that i wouldnt be arguing with anyone

 

Not really seen the Penalty for them (assuming is was the correct call by going in here)...But the penalty we SHOULD have had is shocking.

Beaton not even going over to look at it was disgusting act in itself,either cheating or being a total shitebag to be called out on something he got wrong.

And why did VAR not go to the incident? But VAR went to an incident between 2 players banging into each other? which was played multiple times?

I honestly dont know how our club havent said anything about this..and without going over old ground again we PAY for this....We should withdraw from the payments creating a circus and showing up whats going on up here.

What actually does it take? to be cheated out of a 30 million pound CL windfall? For talented players to leave us because of the way the game is run up here? For our manager to basically be ashamed of where he is managing? And what about future players and managers looking in?

Either the refs are cheating or they are so incompitent that they dont deserve to be refs.

Honestly how many times have WE and other teams outside the Huns been on the recieving end of these desicions? And how many times have the huns been on anything wrong?

These Refs,never get demoted? Never have to explain themselves.....if we are paying for this * then we should add them to have a mic on and cameras also withing the VAR room with Mics.

Teething problems my * hole...Its blatant cheating and we are all now way passed getting * off.

 

So just watched the first wee part of this on the BBC website, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64150636. Here's the reason VAR will never work in this country, listening to the ex ref basically saying there was nothing wrong with either of the decisions made my stomach turn. It shows that the referees are either blinkered, or really are that useless the entire system needs a shake up. It's beginning to really * me off 7 Pundits yesterday saying one was a stone waller, one shouldn't have been given. But according to SPFL refs naw. Something is off and it * stinks.

 

If a defender slides in in the box and doesn’t win the ball, well that’s just plain idiotic and completely criminal.

Quite simple, it’s a penalty.

 

Aye Sakala has reached his leg out to make contact with Starfelt, the fake injury calibration spoke volumes, I'd be booking the * for cheating

 

Keevins yersterday (tool i know) even stated that he was gobsmacked about it and it should have been given without doubt....Also stated that if there was another vote now for VAR..it would now be rejected

 

You just said he stepped on him, how can there be zero contact if he stepped on him?

 

So…. Contact there?

 

aye if he had slid in and caught him or even brushed against him ,in this var era it shouldnt matter if he dives in recklessly if he doesnt catch him.the fact it wasnt even checked is outrageous

 

i said there was no contact at that point in the image

 

I think the hun penalty was quite soft, there was very little contact however it was an idiotic decision to go to ground like that and it was more luck than judgement that he didn’t completely clean him out.

The big issue is them not awarding our penalty which is just blatant outright cheating, and there can be no other explanation for it. I know Ange doesn’t speak about decisions after games however it seriously needs called out because while we just sit back and continue to take it it’ll only get worse.

When a defender has his hands above his head and it hits his hand it’s a penalty, pretty simple really, unless you’re against the huns.

 

Anyone see the bbc VAR-dict with Richard Forster and ex 'top grade' ref Stuart Dougal? And also any thoughts? Genuine thoughts though, not the usual 'hun *' 'cheating *' etc etc because I know all that. More on his laying down the rules of the game. For me on their camera angles alone it's a pen. There is clear movement of the hand toward the ball, a sort of pushing the ball away motion. That is one that Collum should have seen and instructed Beaton to look at

 

Do we all really think if Beathun looked at the monitor he would've changed his mind on either , not a hope in he'll, and they will just pull out a feeble excuse if he got brought to task on it

It's a suprise VAR is only being used to help 1 team in this country

 

Sakala makes contact with Starfelt yes, as he stands on his foot. I get both both sides of the argument, but for me it's a nonsense bit of play, neither did enough to be a free kick either way. The issue I have with the entire situation is the fact VAR didn't look at it, Beaton didn't even look interested in any other view bar his own and the monitor must still be out for delivery with Yodle as it wasn't even looked at for 2 highly controversial decisions, decisions VAR is supposed to solve. The two incidents completely render any money paid by clubs pointless.

Like I said it's not the fact the pen was given it was more the fact the tools there to stop wrong decisions being made were not used once. Could you imagine if both incidents happened during a Liverpool vs Man U game? The controversy would be everywhere papers/TV the lot. Were just supposed to accept * poor standards and move on without accountability or consequence, that's the part I hold issue.

 

It did cost us. We should have won 3-1 or 3-2 (assuming we scored the pen).

 

For me the BBC thing made me more aware of the issues with the refereeing in this country, they are so righteous, arrogant and old manor they officiate games like its the 1970s.

 

Ive not seen a video of it...and a picture says 1000 words....but by going by that picture Sakala is knowingly about to make contact onto Starfelt,than Starfelt smahing into him.

Sakala just playing it cute by the defender sliding in...again i aint seen the actual footage.

 

The nonsense about var not getting involved is pish, there was an alleged handball in the box, that should have been reviewed. The fact he spoke to the bar at all says it was "checked" he just declined going to the monitor. If he didn't check it at all what the * is VAR doing then? Especially when it sits and reviews a clash of heads there was no clear error there and I suspect they were trying to look for a violent conduct that was not there.

 

That's the thing, I think VAR uses super slow motion far too much, you can make anything look bad if you slow it down, a 2 second search on YouTube, lets say ...... slow motion snowballs, they look brutal slowed down but when you see clip at the actual speed looks like nothing. Evaluating these incidents in super slow motion complete gets rid of any sort of narrative. That's not just for celtic but in general.

 

So if a player puts his foot on top of another player and that player then moves it's a foul against the player who's been stood on. Doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it matters that Starfelt happened to be moving at the time he was stood on.
And as some have said - I wouldn't be screaming for it at the other end because it wasn't a pen.