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Honest Mistakes Thread 2016/17 onwards.

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Basically confirming what we all knew. We are being cheated.

murphy88, Dec 30, 2022

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Wee Baldy said: ↑

This is an interesting take on Abada's gaol against Livi from Keith Hackett from the Celtic Blog.

Keith Hackett, the EPL and FIFA accredited ref, says that Celtic’s goal against Livingston should have stood. We all know this. But his interpretation of the incident is particularly amusing. He basically says that the VAR official and the ref decided to interpret the rules in such a way as they essentially acted as mind-readers and not referees.
Furthermore, he has said that this is not the way matches are supposed to be officiated.

“The referee can only make a decision based on an action,” he said. “You can’t start looking at the thought process of the defender, and whether Abada distracted him. You’re making assumptions otherwise. The referee can only judge based on what he has seen.”
That’s the clearest explanation for what a referee is supposed to do that you will get. Instead, these guys decided to act on their own interpretation as to whether or not the Livingston defender was trying to play the ball.

Of all the excuses offered so far I think the one they came up with for that decision is the worst yet, and it gets more stinking by the day because officials in this country now feel they have a license to let their imaginations run away with them … or to spin negative calls any way they want. In this case it was as if the decision took time because they looked for whatever pretext they could find, however flimsy, for chopping off the goal.

Hackett went even further though; he seemed to suggest that the rules are written to keep bias out of the process, and
that in this case it was allowed to creep in.
“Because human beings are involved, these decisions can change from one time to the next,” he said. And that could be interpreted as him saying that individuals make mistakes or something much more sinister. He could be saying both.

Finally, he thought that for these reasons the initial decision should have stood, with the goal awarded to Ababa.

“I think the VAR should have supported the referee’s process, and then the Scottish FA can come out and give the reasons for why they think he was right.

And we all know that was a legitimate goal.

We all know the decision is virtually indefensible, and it is hard to believe that this farce was permitted. If the media was willing to do its job and question this stuff properly our officials would have to improve … or play it straight.

As it stands there is no incentive for them to do either.
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Hopefully they keep doing it and other eyes are on them....as well as a dossier from ourselves..

They're literally cheating in plain sight and aren't following the rules..

McChiellini.., Dec 30, 2022

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I’ve said this before. Isn’t it ironic that we pay the most for VAR and we are at the wrong end of so many decisions?

Good job we are so superior to the other dross in the league.

I expect more dodgy decisions on Monday, but our class will nullify the cheating. I can’t wait to see Beale’s after match reaction when we hammer them.

The Magnificent 7, Dec 30, 2022

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It's sad that going into the Rangers game we know we have to overcome VAR on top of Rangers.

I'm fully expecting a hugely controversial decision to go against us.

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Onefootwonder said: ↑

It's sad that going into the Rangers game we know we have to overcome VAR on top of Rangers.

I'm fully expecting a hugely controversial decision to go against us.
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Chill buddy we’ll prevail on Monday.

The Magnificent 7, Dec 30, 2022

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I’m not one for conspiracies as I think the referees are incredibly incompetent, but how in the name of Christ was that not a penalty?

Bob Loblaw, Jan 2, 2023

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Must not have hit his hands I think as it 100% would have to have been given even with Hugh Dallas and Bobby Madden in there they'd have gave it, they'll use the excuse that they only had 1 angle as all the other cameras were poiting at Joe Hart so they couldn't tell if it hit the hands or not.

ILoveTheCeltic, Jan 2, 2023

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Any replays of the handball?

Dylan1996, Jan 2, 2023

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Definitely not a penalty ,other than that I've no issues with the officials.
I thought we were * poor today.

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Any replays of the Rangers penalty decision, I thought it was a penalty on one replay, but see people saying he stood on Starfelt’s foot.
Would like to see it again?!

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I thought we should have had a penalty, and theirs was never a pen. Sakala slid on top of CCVs boot.

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Samurai Bhoy said: ↑

Any replays of the Rangers penalty decision, I thought it was a penalty on one replay, but see people saying he stood on Starfelt’s foot.
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It was a foul from Starfelt.
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Paul67 said: ↑

I thought we should have had a penalty, and theirs was never a pen. Sakala slid on top of CCVs boot.
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It was Starfelt that made the tackle.

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Callum McGregor said: ↑

It was Starfelt that made the tackle.
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Yeah, sorry Starfelt.

Paul67, Jan 2, 2023

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Their pen I thought was a pen. Starfelt made it easy decision to make. Sakala put his foot down on starfelt but should have went to VAR. we Should have had a penalty not doubt and did not need VAR. The fact it did and still wasn't given speaks volumes

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Starfelt made the decision too easy for them diving in like that and didn’t touch the ball. Sakala’s foot was ontop of Starfelt so not sure what a competent VAR official would of done in another league

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Seen our pen again.....red card penalty celtic. Was intentional movement towards the ball stopping a goal for celtic coz keeper was nowhere and that was goal bound. Red card. Penalty

greengrocer, Jan 2, 2023

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Lol * don't try to hide the corruption

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Getting to the ridiculous stage now with the honest mistakes a penalty for standing on the defenders foot and zombie player hands up and hits him no penalty a * joke and why is the club staying silent on this and Beaton never checked both incidents .

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