Honest Mistakes Thread 2016/17 onwards.

Another clear goal chopped off and Turnbull challenge was 50/50 with both guys looking at the ball. We may have won comfortably but again VAR is the talking point

 

I thought it was in. Tough one to see for an official to be fair but how we don't have goal line technology is farcical..

The keeper was a fair bit behind his line..

 

Initially I thought turnbulls challenge deserved a booking but after a few replays maybe it was a red, should still appeal the red card and complain officially at the way VAR is used in our games.

 

It's the fact that if that was the other end or the huns it would have been reviewed.
But when we score our legitimate goals they are automatically scrutinised

 

100% mate..

Our clear goals are being checked over and over to see if there's anything they can see to rule it out..

It's clear as day that's happening as it's all the time. Don't see it to this extent anywhere else..

Just watching the diets late penalty there. So so soft. We would never ever get a penalty given like that....especially in the last minute..

 

Same. I thought it was harsh but it's a red..

 

Turnbull's was a red - reckless play endangering the opponent.

Kyogo's goal that wasn't given is the one really bothering me. They seriously don't have any way to check whether a ball has crossed the line? Not even a couple of fixed cameras looking along the goal line? That's farcical in this day and age.

And this is in a game with the Sky cameras. I'm not buying it that the angle shown on TV was the best one they had.

 

It’s like that every game spoke. About last season aswell


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Just watching some old vids there and noticed Beaton points to his watch to tell him the diet goal was over the line. I thought I'd seen it before..

Was it only used for cups? Very strange if so when it tells us definitively whether the balls over....like the weekends..

 

Aye mate it’s only for cup finals and semi finals

 

Nick of that gormless * gordon trying to hit Eddy with the ball after the panenka

 

Wee hun * wasn't the worst I've seen tonight to be fair but still a wee *..

Blew instantly at almost every corner we had..

 

Still a * and * VaR.

Last night we finally got a correct VaR call in our favour. However they still * it up and have made more questions than answers.

Why is it berniebhoy gets booked for an accidental, not aware, ball behind him handball, but the Hibs player is out stretched, facing the ball, intentional (albeit reactionary) handball and doesn't get booked?

The second claim for a handball is fine, considering we now believe that so long as your arm is unnaturally straight down, it doesn't count.

The foul though, * me! That's exactly what VaR is to be checking, leg out, doesn't touch the ball, takes the player down - that's a penalty and the ref shat it and VaR did not do its job properly (yes I know VaR isn't the job, it's the operator).


Because heaven forbid Celtic should get two legit pens in one game
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They said on Celtic TV last week that they couldn't afford both the watches and VAR so they decided to get rid of the the one that is 100% accurate and keep the one that lets DOBs try and screw us out of every decision.

 

The Hibs player did get a touch on the ball and I suppose that means no penalty

 

The Matt O’Reilly handball against Motherwell blows that theory out the water as well though. Arm was straight and it come off his knee up to the top of his arm. Absolute ridiculous decision.

What I find funny as well, every decision that gets looked at for us takes seconds to decide it’s a no. Every decision that goes against us takes an eternity.

 

Laughed out loud at this to be fair

True though. Unreal these *..

 

Yep. I thought the Bushiri one was a definite penalty as well..

You won't see us getting 2 penalties in a game often though. Even with VAR..

 

This is an interesting take on Abada's gaol against Livi from Keith Hackett from the Celtic Blog.

Keith Hackett, the EPL and FIFA accredited ref, says that Celtic’s goal against Livingston should have stood. We all know this. But his interpretation of the incident is particularly amusing. He basically says that the VAR official and the ref decided to interpret the rules in such a way as they essentially acted as mind-readers and not referees.
Furthermore, he has said that this is not the way matches are supposed to be officiated.

“The referee can only make a decision based on an action,” he said. “You can’t start looking at the thought process of the defender, and whether Abada distracted him. You’re making assumptions otherwise. The referee can only judge based on what he has seen.”
That’s the clearest explanation for what a referee is supposed to do that you will get. Instead, these guys decided to act on their own interpretation as to whether or not the Livingston defender was trying to play the ball.

Of all the excuses offered so far I think the one they came up with for that decision is the worst yet, and it gets more stinking by the day because officials in this country now feel they have a license to let their imaginations run away with them … or to spin negative calls any way they want. In this case it was as if the decision took time because they looked for whatever pretext they could find, however flimsy, for chopping off the goal.

Hackett went even further though; he seemed to suggest that the rules are written to keep bias out of the process, and
that in this case it was allowed to creep in.
“Because human beings are involved, these decisions can change from one time to the next,” he said. And that could be interpreted as him saying that individuals make mistakes or something much more sinister. He could be saying both.

Finally, he thought that for these reasons the initial decision should have stood, with the goal awarded to Ababa.

“I think the VAR should have supported the referee’s process, and then the Scottish FA can come out and give the reasons for why they think he was right.

And we all know that was a legitimate goal.


We all know the decision is virtually indefensible, and it is hard to believe that this farce was permitted. If the media was willing to do its job and question this stuff properly our officials would have to improve … or play it straight.

As it stands there is no incentive for them to do either.

 

Roll on Monday...