Honest Mistakes Thread 2016/17 onwards.

Anderhun has.

It makes Scotland look behind the times, the rules were clarified in July of this year with many real life video examples of how the rules work. The debate has already been settled and like when the offside rule was originally updated high profile examples left many scratching their head but accepting that the new rules are the rules and players have to adapt.

Overall the game is always going in that direction, favouring the attacking play. However, when it comes to Scotland modernising the game is impossible to advance with the referees we have since they choose to referee the game to a completely different standard to the rest to the major leagues and have done for decades. And whilst I'm not a conspiracy theorist I would have to say it has been exactly about as long as the Lanarkshire Refereeing Association has provided the vast majority of the referees.

Before that it was just obvious cheating

 

I think people are overlooking the below or at least interpreting it in a different way than myself. As I said Abada moves towards the player and the the direction of where the ball is going, how can you not view this as an obvious action? If Abada stood still then I would agree that it ios not offside. The defender has no way of knowing if Abada is coming from an offside position so must make an attempt at the ball, if Abada is nowhere near him I don't think he makes the poor attempt at heading the ball. @Mickmac clearly interfering is an issue, how do you come to the conclusion that it isn't? I'm curious as to your interpretation.


2. Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
interfering with an opponent by:
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
or
gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
been deliberately saved by any opponent

 

Abada's position just after Turnbull passes the ball



Look how much closer he is when the ball reaches the defender, he obviously makes an attempt at getting to the ball



As Celtic fans I think we all have green tinted specs on a lot of the time and I think this is obscuring peoples view of the decision. There are plenty of decisions to be * off at I just don't think this one is one of them.

 

Abada doesn’t impact on the opponent to play the ball though does he? Impacting on the ability to play the ball would be something like running in front of him so he can’t see the ball or shielding the opponent to stop him from getting to the ball.

Watch the Mbappe tweet earlier in the thread, the player doesn’t know if Mbappe is offside(which he is), so they play the ball, * it up and Mbappe gets the ball and scores. Goal upheld by VAR for these exact reasons.

 

The laws don’t cover what you are saying here. You’ve assumed Abada has attempted to play the ball, where he has not. Abada hasn’t stuck a foot out nor more likely in this case attempted to head the ball. If Abada jumps up in an attempt to head the ball and missed, then I would agree with you.

I’m all for calling a no penalty, I still say the handball wasn’t in the first half because it’s just not. Arm is by his side. But this is clear as day by the rules, without me putting my interpretation on it, a penalty.

 

Those pictures show abada running back towards goal, no challenging the ball and anticipating a pass back. Goal all day.

 

I thought at the time that's as soon as abada runs towards the ball that makes him active and therefore offside.

Then you read the rules and it's as clear as mud. So * knows.

 

Aye with out watching that video I don't know how you would know this? Based on that video and explanation I suppose it must be right. Reading the rules I never got that, probably why I'm not a ref, that or because I'm not a mason

 

Its over with...onto the next big mistake for our club to turn a blind eye to

 

Having watched the video and explanation it must be correct but I still don't see that in the rule. I think the rule is probably wrong but what the * do I know

 

You thought about applying for a SPL ref place? You have the credentials!

Just don't tell them your a bhoy

 

In fact I think you are right. I don't seem to know the rules and all I need now is to master the handshake

 

Or you had a good drink in The Louden...that seems to get you jobs up here

 

I'll never forget the time the CSC bus passed the day the * was welding the flagpole for his pissy 10th flag, that was a good day!

 

I appreciate that our league (in the eyes of the UEFA bigwigs and the major European leagues ) is compatible with perhaps the Welsh or Irish leagues etc and any wrong doing in our domestic league will be low in their list of priorities. It still shouldn’t prevent our club from highlighting the clear and obvious cheating that we are seeing on a regular basis. Surely they have the technology to compile a dossier with video evidence of the various * ups since VAR was introduced. It could also add the stats showing that out club is looked upon less favourably than our nearest challenger from officials who have an allegiance to that club and yet are still allowed to officiate both their games on ours. If our club doesn’t act ( past history doesn’t bode well) then I would love to see a group of supporters associations, fans forums and influential fans come together to act on behalf of our club. We have some clever IT fans as well as fans with a knowledge of law etc. in our support and hopefully they can build a case to take to UEFA as we all know * all will be done about it if no one acts and we could loose games and trophies as a result

 

Thats why there are no Scottish refs doing ECL games. Their *.

 

How was that serious foul play? The rules are just made up pish now

 

I'd want it the otherway around tbh. Foot up like karate kid. That's the risk you take if you don't get the ball.

 

So would I, but would we get it ? Absolutely no chance.

 

Honestly surprised at the outcry over that red card. If it’s the other way, every single one of us is screaming for a red

 

It was a yellow for dangerous play. He watched the ball all the way, pulled his leg away at the end and totally accidental.