Hayato Inamura

I do see what you’re saying bud. But for the money we spent I totally believe we could have bought wiser for players that would contribute the same.

my whole point here is Rodgers absolute arrogance for the English prem is the downfall with him and the board.

the board have proven they can use the club scouts and find gems in other “unproven” leagues….rodgers doesn’t agree.

 

The board have also proven that they can sign utter dross, like the 2023 summer window. We’ve actively punted 6 out of the 7 we signed, with only Yang left and on the verge of leaving this window.

 

Iwata- proven since he’s a good player.
Lagerbielke- literally the exact profile of player we seem to be enquiring about now. Who after a good season as twente has earnt a move to braga and played every game. Rodgers stubbornness to not play him exactly proven here.
Odin holm- failed with us and LA but before hand also looked exactly the Scandinavian profile we seem to be scouting atm.
Tilio- absolute project signing who we have sold for basically the same fee we signed. So no loss there.
Yang- sometimes looks like there could be a player. Then looks like he can’t play football. No doubt we make money when Birmingham buy him.
Kwon- not sure what happened but if we can take a K2 league player and sell him to the French top division. That is nothing other than a successful transfer for him and also us.
Nawrocki- genuinely never saw him put a foot wrong but suddenly came in…then suddenly went out of the picture again. Rodgers had weird comment about him too. Not sure at all what happened there. Big fee though in relation so that one is definitely a flop.
Palma- started amazing. Suddenly became * and started Tik tok. We won’t lose too much on him though as he was already low at £3.5 mil (for an attacking player in today’s market)
Nat Phillips- English market reject loan. What more can I say.
Bernardo- absolute cracker on loan that season so a definite success that year. Only after when made permanent he became a flop.
Kuhn. Success.
Idah. Loan was a success I believe. No way on earth after it though is he worth £9 mil. But the board 100% backed Rodgers on who he publicly wanted. Idah since then though for me has been an absolute thing of wonder. How can you look like he did on loan then when made permanent nothing alike.


overall the bord signings there have been low risk, potentially high reward but lost absolutely no value. It’s not exactly high aspirations. But it’s still good scouting.

whereas we have seen ourselves the market Rodgers knows and wants to do business in is high risk low value/reward.

literally look at today mate. Fernandes from Southampton for £42 million is absolute blasphemy. There’s probably 30 players in the la liga, ligue 1 and serie A better than him but because he comes from the English leagues that adds a huge amount on instantly.

 

"Elite" manager tho, up there with Pep and that... Sure the journeyman loan signing from Boca Juniors will be a better option in the long run.

 

Don't think you can ever really get a true measure of a player in friendlies to be fair mate.

Your talking about Rodgers being destructive and political here. It's a bit tedious.

Could it not just possibly be that this young lb, that we signed for 250k isn't ready to be a first team players for us?

It's no criticism of inamua either, like I said I been pleasantly surprised with him up till now. But we haven't seen him tested defensively yet (outwith friendlies) and if we fielded him midweek and we conceded due to his error, his celtic careers is over before it begins.

 

He played in the Livingston game and was good too. That's a reasonable gauge of how he will be tested in the SPL. Bringing a player in on loan whilst we loan out Inamura makes little sense to me, particularly with the reality that they are the backup player.

 

We've chucked players into massive games before and they've had to sink or swim. Elhamed and Bauer few years ago at Ibrox, Lagerbielke played with Scales there as well 2 year ago. There's a difference between being reluctant to play a guy and not even giving him a chance by excluding him from the squad altogether.

He's not being judged on merit which is the key issue.

 

Ah come on mate, Livingston had 21% possession.

You can't be telling me that inamura has proven his defensive qualities cus he once stood up to Livingston that seen 21% possession.

 

I'm sure the numbers will be out there, but in most of our games in Scotland, teams will have about that amount of possession....so why not keep him around, use him in games to rest KT and simultaneously develop him....it doesn't make sense to me.

 

Plays what's in front of him, does well.

He deserves more games time against other opposition as a result - cant be holding it against him that he played well against Livingston.

 

But then bud we’re signing a guy on loan who hasn’t played a full 90 minutes since February. Rodgers himself says players need a full preseason to get up to speed. Look at how he’s been talking about Simpson-Pusey and he has consistently been playing for city’s youths so will be relatively fit.

so if Rodgers sticks to his usual. We won’t see this guy for weeks whilst “he gets up to speed and used to how we work”. Add to that the guy we’re loaning has already been posting social media posts about boca juniors. Not a good sign as we’ve already had our fair share of those.

I could agree completely on this Inamura thing and loaning him out if we were getting a player of quality in who we potentially had an option of buying at the end. This loan is just not that.

 

That's not far off what's normal for us. Plus they are a physical team, one of Rodgers so called qualms, and he was comfortable.

He's looked of the right quality and character in every game he's played, he's our player and he'll get regular game time and exposure to how we play.

We are meanwhile spunking a fair amount of cash on a loan backup that'll not be here long term. Makes no sense to me.

 

We didn't take the option on Marcelo and it's a straight loan so one way to look at it is he's more experienced back up for a year that then allows us to send Inamura out on loan for a year and come back ready to take his place when he goes back to Boca.

Personally I think Inamura has shown enough to just being he back up now and we could coach his flaws and develop them but that doesn't seem to be Rodgers way.

 

There are good deals to get down south. Is there deals that are absolutely crazy? Of course there is. We've literally just benefitted from that by selling Idah for £7m.

If you look at Rodgers time here, the club/him have signed 24 permanent players. Only 5 of them have come from down south.

In a similar time(albeit Rodgers has had an additional transfer window), Postecoglou also signed 24 permanent players. He also signed 5 players from down south.

Rodgers will look to the leagues down south because it's what he knows in the same way Postecoglou looked to the Asian Market. That's usually what happens when a club brings in a manager without a proper footballing structure in place. Desmond actually mentioned this in one of the very few interviews he has ever done. The manager controls the footballing department and the board react to what he wants, or words to those effects.

With all due respect, the 7 players that were brought in during Rodgers first window have all failed here. I don't really care how they have done since leaving, the simple fact is they failed here. It was a shocking window, culminating in a £20m spend that we will be lucky to get back. You can't use a player succeeding somewhere else, after we have punted him to back up the point that the club will sign successful punts from different parts of the world. They didn't work here and the club don't benefit from their form or their performances now that they have left.

Not every player is going to go for £28m profit like O'Riley does. In fact, when you look at the cheap punts we have made over the last few years, going £3m and below, who can you think of that has actually established themselves? I think the Janaury window under Ange where we brought in Maeda, Hatate and O'Riley were the last ones that spring to mind. Happy to be told different. Getting someone like Jota in for £6.5m and selling him for £25m, even with a 30% sell on to Benfica still made the club £13m pure profit. That's more than we have just received from Kuhn, in terms of the pure profit that is brought in.

Back to your initial point, I don't see how you can call Rodgers anything but a legend when it comes to what he's won at this football club. 11 domestic trophies won out of a possible 13. That's absolutely insane. Yes, he's a controversial figure and he left under very damning circumstances the first time around and that is likely a bridge too far for you and others to accept. Regardless of how badly he was being undermined from the board, he should have stayed until the end of the season, we can all agree with that. But refusing to call him a legend because he likes to sign players from down south is bizarre, mate. Those players that he has signed from England have contributed to him winning 11 out of 13 trophies. Has it always been value for money? No, but neither was some of Postecoglous signings.

 

Hope the loan is in the SPFL so we can keep a proper eye on him.

 

Dont understand this at all, hes looked well capable of covering KT from what we've seen and instead we are trying to get some * from S. America on loan.. i just doesn't make sense.

 

Got on a flight to Amsterdam today, could just be a holiday.

 

Going over to get a couple of spliffs in

 

Football League World has been exclusively informed that Birmingham are mulling over a potential last-minute swoop for Celtic defender, Hayato Inamura.



The 23-year-old has been made available for loan by Brendan Rodgers after the Hoops signed him from J.League side Albirex Niigata earlier this summer.

Brum chief Chris Davies needs cover on the left-hand side of his defence - and the rookie fits that bill.

Rodgers confirmed that the youngster was signed as ‘an investment’ when the Glasgow giants brought him in earlier this summer.

Birmingham’s recruitment chiefs are working hard to find a solution to the problem.


A deal for Inamura may not get Birmingham supporters as excited as some of the signings they've been able to make this summer, but it could prove to be a smart and solid one.

Despite being 23, the Tokyo-born defender hasn't played much senior football in his career so far, having made 36 appearances in all competitions for Albirex Niigata prior to joining Celtic.



Therefore, he will surely be desperate to really kickstart his senior career ASAP, and he could find a meaningful role as an important piece of squad depth and rotation in Davies' side.

Inamura is a left-sided centre-back by trade, and that's where he spent the lion's share of his time in Japanese football operating from.



However, his only competitive appearance for Celtic to date, a 3-0 win over Livingston on 23 August, the left-footer made the starting XI at the left-back position, playing well in that role and helping contribute towards a clean sheet that afternoon at Celtic Park.





Therefore, with defenders such as Krystian Bielik, Dion Sanderson and Emmanuel Longelo all departing the club this summer, he could instantly find a place with Blues as being a really important piece of backup both in the middle of defence, and on the left flank.

Injuries and suspensions are always just around the corner, and that's all it can take to derail a campaign if there isn't enough strength in depth present in a squad, and so Inamura can play an important role in this regard at St Andrew's, should a deal be done.

Alternatively, he does present as being a bit of an enigma and certainly has an unknown quantity surrounding him, and so there's every chance he could arrive and perhaps surprise a few people with his quality and ability to play a starting role for Blues this season.

 

It's all shaping up - Chris Davies our new manager when a Japanese company buys the club after DD and the board bail out. Return of the outcasts.