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The attempts at stand up for the green brigade i heard weren't embarrassing, the grief people got off of others for singing it was though. Not allowing people in to the ground with GB merchandise on was also embarrassing.

So again, you sing rebel songs but think there is a time and a place, well the majority of our away support would probably disagree with you, so once again you're highlighting a split in the support.

Everyone I've met, all of my mates and family all disagreed with how the GB were treated by the club. The lies by the club and the media witchhunt are all things people i talk to disagree with. Maybe everyone i know is just in the minority though.

 

You can do what you want, same way I would.....but bottom line, if you want to have a pop and ignore what your asked to do at the games, FFS dont go greeting about big bad stewards.

With every action theres a consequence, like it or not.

 

Big bad stewards, any support in Europe got * of them...The stewards would be battered out the stands.

* sake, police were scared to go into the jungle. 99% of UK supports are shitebags.

 

Well if you read my posts properly you'd see questions. One was wondering if you actually knew what the word martyr meant, for example.

 

Last thing I would do is cast apsersions on what you have experienced or seen; we may differ in our opionion strongly but would never ignore or discredit the opinion of a fan.

All I know is, my circle of pubs, friends and family..its a non issue.

And same as i said earlier, I have an issue with people telling me when to sing and what to sing, have stated that on various posts...but if your going to do it after all the warnings, then you cant greet about the consequences. Thats just life.

 

We're not talking about violence though we're talking about wanting to be able to sing songs without being harrassed and filmed by police. I don't see how that's unreasonable. All I'm getting from people in here is that they are happy for other fans to be treated this way and they bring it on themselves, if that's the view of majority I'll miss sitting in the stands with people like that less than people will miss me.

 

I didnt answer that as it was beneath contempt,......

 

Clubs and fans don't want fans singing these days.

Happy to price folks out that want too. Reality most clubs don't want it, neither do fans that now go. Families is all clubs want now. We are yer typical EPL model club, only playing in Scotland.

Only club in the SPL that wants fans singing, and atmosphere is Motherwell.

 

That's nice but as I asked you should section 111 have sat down and should our support have sat down when we were constantly being told to tannoys at away grounds? Our should we have ignored and continued to stand?

Greeting about big bad stewards? FFS, I think you may have the wrong person here.

 

As again illustrates my point, our support reflects that off most UK supports.

'Aye the rules are *, but they are the rules'.

Palace and Motherwell are much more organised and by far are the better supports.

 

So why do the club try and "manufacture" an atmosphere by playing songs before kick off and have singers on before big games? Why did they originally sanction section 111?

You can blame the club, stewards or whatever for lack of atmosphere, bottom line is its down to the modern fans and general life attitudes!

Will we ever get it back? Wouldnt hang by the baws waiting on it.

 

Ther facts are even when the Green Brigade and section 111 was in place by and large the fans couldn't be arsed joining in with any signing. Now you maybe understand that with the 'Ultra' songs, maybe even with the very few Irish songs that were sang but even the Celtic songs were met with little reaction from the rest of the support. That had nothing to do with people being filmed, nothing to do with people being scared of being arrested, nothing to do with stewards - it was all to do with people not being arsed. The Green Brigade and section 111 have gone now, save for a few games in another area, and this lack of interest largely remains as of course it would. For anyone to suggest that this apathy is not the main reason for the lack of atmopshere in the stadium is clearly talking absolute nonsense.

 

Wasnt aimed at you or anyone in particular fella; just a general pop.

 

Hello, that's what I've been saying.

End of the day, if your rating our fans in terms of atmosphere were probably one of the worst in Scotland. Several factors involved in that, club/police etc but fans don't care for it anymore.

 

Any chance of answering the questions posed on the standing issue?

 

So accusing someone of being a martyr and uber fan, whatever the * that is, is fine, but when asked to explain what you mean by that and if you actually know what you've just written or not, that's beneath contempt? :smiley-laughing002:

 

There are a a few reasons for the lack of atmosphere at the moment. The first, is that too many people are worried about what others think about them singing when nobody else is making an effort around them. People can't be bothered when nobody around them is. The second is the morons who tell people to sit down whenever someone tries. And the third is a general lack of organisation. There are lots of small groups of fans who sing around the stadium, but none of them are singing in unison and they usually just end up drowning each other out and then fading out half way through the song. There needs to be better co-ordination or it just leads to confusion within the rest of the support who want to join in.

 

No problem answering anything you want, usually have an opinion on everything.

Being told to sit down is disgraceful, a * joke but as ive said earlier though its up to the individual how they want to react to that.

However if the response is "ram it" then, you probably will get a reaction.

 

This may sound daft but this is actually a major problem. On Sunday a group of people behind me stood up and started singing and a few folk turned around and looked at them as if they had flung a bag of * onto the pitch. Some people go to games and sit with their thumbs up their arses and moan about other people trying to create a bit of atmosphere and enjoy themselves.

This is one of the reasons standing should be brought back. It will segregate the people who want to make an atmosphere from the people who want to sit in peace watching the game.

 

Lack of organisation is the many issue. Look at Palace, their support is the best in the UK. All down to organisation. It wouldn't improve here, due to folk knocking anyone that sticks their head above the sand to try. Only look at the pelters the GB get for attempting to do that.

Its funny, GB were probably the best group in the UK till 2 years ago, then Palace took over. But years back, you would have had the likes of Palace watching a Celtic match in amazement, at how good it was...now thinking suffering *, how much has that support deteriorated.