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HANDING THE SPL TO THE HUNS

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Tamster, Jan 18, 2009.

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  1. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    No offence intended mate but that is a pile of nonsense. Also, don't tell me to wake up when I watch Celtic as intently as anyone. If i were basing my opinion on nothing more than a game here or there I'd take your point but I don't.

    Under Gordon Strachan we beat the team that went on to win the entire competition twice. O'Neill's team wasn't capable of doing that, those are facts, deal with them.
     
  2. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Luck? Are you kidding me :56:

    Is this what it has came to? Strachan is only successful due to luck?

    I give up, I seriously do. I'm * sick of this.
     
  3. celtic13

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    u are still assumin it is going to hapen cos it hasnt happened yet....far from it
     
  4. Hadouken

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    he's right it is an opinion not an assumption.
     
  5. STLbhoy

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    For starters everyone has their own opinion of what "the Glasgow Celtic Way" is. But I assume we can agree that it's attacking, free-flowing and entertaining football. Spain has that, as did the Dutch in the 70s. But with the amount of money we have relative to the rest of the world we can't afford a team capable of total football, which seems to be what everyone expects.

    People underrate the SPL because no one has won it besides Celtic or Rangers in a long time. That's not because the other teams have terrible players, it's because Celtic or Rangers can afford to snap up the best talent in the SPL. Those are still professional footballers we're coming up against, maybe future Celtic stars. We're not a bad team if we don't roll over every other team in the SPL besides Rangers. No, we're not an 80% possession per game team, but we're certainly not a "bad team."

    I think most people are frustrated because Strachan hasn't really signed a big name with a lot of flair who hasn't flopped. We're a good team even if we don't have amazing players. And we still attempt to play "the Glasgow Celtic Way." We play a 4-4-2, we always have two strikers, we usually have one attacking CM (Brown), our gameplan usually involves giving the ball to our flair wingers, and I can't remember the last time we actually sat back and put 10 men behind the ball in an SPL game.

    So in all honesty, we are playing the Celtic way even if we don't have the skill to make it look good. We're attacking and trying to entertain (successfully to those easily entertained like myself).
     
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    All i know is Hutchesonis scoring a lot og goals in th reserves.
    Play him before Samaras
     
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    Well said lad. Just to let you know that me and all my mates share the same veiws as you . I cant understand how people on here can't see it !!
     
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    Well if last minute goals and other teams doing favours is not luck what would you say is say is luck????? if shakter beat benfica which they should have, we wouldnt have made it, the fist time he qulified mate man utd pumped the living day lights out of us and shopuld have scored at least 3 and we robbed them with nakas free kick!!!!

    This imo is luck:50:
     
  9. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    I never said my opinion is more valid than yours is Tamster I merely suggested that I might have a more balanced view from watching every single Celtic game apart from the odd one.

    Samaras' overall play could improve, everyone could see that but you can't argue with his scoring record. If you play him he scores more often then he doesn't.

    In my opinion you can't even begin to compare a multiple times capped German international with a young guy we see 15 minutes of here and there.

    I'd say O'Dea was probably a better defender than Mick but come on now Tamster would playing him have made a difference to todays result? Do you honestly believe that?

    What did Hartley do wrong today? If he was poor I never seen it.

    Hutchinson is scoring a lot in the reserves, Sammy is scoring a lot in the SPL. No brainer.
     
  10. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    I'd genuinely hate to be you mate, enjoy the good times they won't be here forever don't try and bring yourself or your team down constantly.

    If we lose we're pish, if we win we're lucky?
     
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    Hartley is just a middle man between passes. All he does is hold the ball up, hold, hold then passes it 2 ft. Fair enough he has to sit back while Brown makes his run's but a through ball once in a while would go astray even taking on player's himself. I believe Hinkel is class and has impressed me this season, Caddis has the potential to be better but in no way would i choose Caddis over Hinkel. Sammy nor Hutchi should be starting up front, there both equally *, Majority of samaras's goals have been tap in's if not the ball has never left the ground when he goes in the net. McManus atm is playing * ball's, O'dea would be much better atm and Loovens in previous matches dosent seem to be better than McManus, yet again equally poor. we deserve better??
     
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    Hutcheson can't score in the SPL if he isn't given a chance in fairness
     
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    If you're all so worried about results that after ever set of dropped points, draw or loss, you freak out and start complaining how pish we are and we'll lose the league and all this bull, go jump on a big four bandwagon. Supporting Celtic is about something more.
     
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    hey mate that guy made points of why we were lucky when we quailified in the champions league . hes not making it up !!
    1 man united were all over us b4 naka scored that free kick
    2 donatis deflected shot in the last minute
    3 caradoza of benfica missing 2 free headers when easier to score
    4 2 shaktar players going for the same ball to let jarosik score equilizer
    5 against spartak the right back hit it straight to skippy and they missed a penalty
    these are just the few of the reasons why some of us think we rode our luck when we quailfied when we did . doesnt mean we didnt enjoy it at the time like! but if you ignore it who are fooling

    that said WGS doesnt have the money to quailify for 2 stage so i dont expect him too
     
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    I would also hate to be you on here spitting out that garbage that we are brilliant when its clear were not??? always talking about were still top etc etc are you watching the same games as the rest of us, i bring the team down because at times we are ordinary, cant get the basics right, school boy defending, bad management. i am not saying if we lose we are pish mate am saying we have been pish all season and if you look at my previous threads or posts you would see this wee have been pish/lucky for 3 year:50: and have only played est 40 cracking games in this time the most noticibly villareal/ benfica in the champions league, we are lucky if we play/see 15 good decent games a season in the spl the rest are grinding out results winning ugly but still winning. And ov cours i will bring the team down i am a celtic fan and i have my points and opinions just like every 1 else and if we are playing bad ov course i am going to be frustrated and annoyed but that does not give you the right to judge me.
     
  16. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    You don't have to point out the 'luck' to me mate, I live and breath Celtic and everything to do with them and I could tell you individual incidents from the last ten seasons.

    I'll ask you 1 question. Why did O'Neill's side never have the same 'luck'?
     
  17. Dirk_Diggler

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    Because the opposition he was up against were much better:50::50::50:

    Points wise oneil got more points than gordon strachan has got celtic??? explain
     
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    Very witty :icon_mrgreen:
     
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    You make your own luck.

    1. Naka scored the * freekick. It was brilliant, not luck. We defend Man. U. being "all over us" with brilliant defending, with some luck.

    2. McGeady was all over Shakhtar's right-back that entire game, and had to beat him one last time to get that cross in. It was only a matter of time before someone put it away.

    3. There are missed chances in every game

    4. The ball getting to Jarosik was luck, agreed, but I'd like to see you put that shot away, it was a bullet, I was amazed.

    5. Skippy scores scrappy goals, those opportunities happen, and he always manages to find them. That's placement and luck, not just luck. Missed penalty - yes luck, maybe karma. Was a pretty soft penalty.
     
  20. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Could you please quote where I said we are brilliant?

    Because I stand up for Strachan and the team I'm supposedly blinkered and 'pro-Strachan' and all this rubbish. I'm not.

    I'm as critical, probably even more so, than most. I deal in facts though and we're a winning football team, that is not up for debate it's a fact.

    I never judged you and I'm respectful of your opinion but I think you may need a wee dose of reality, it's no coincidence I read the same thing over and over again every time we draw or lose. The relative praise is not as much as the slating the side or the manager gets and it's a disgrace.
     
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